Daniel GultschMar 11
Think this through: Imagine your #Signal advocacy is successful and we replace WhatsApp, Telegram, iMessage and Kik with Signal. That leaves one single person in charge of global communications. One person who decides who can communicate with whom.
That’s an absolutely insane proposition.
Show threadAscendorMar 11
@daniel one 501c3 nonprofit foundation.
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@Ascendor @daniel

In the US! Nobody knows if their servers really work like they told us. They use AWS Cloud. The original client doesn't support Tor. Forks work, but they don't like them and tried to block in the past.
tbc...

It's a litte bit better than WA, nothing more.

Mar 11 at 10:05amWeb
Show threadAscendorMar 11
@algol @daniel I personally don't care too much about the server. Since the client is open source, we can know which data goes to the server, and in which form (encrypted). That makes the server pretty powerless.
And that's not only a BIT better than WhatsApp, it's a complete gamechanger. With WA, I have no clue at all, what's happening.
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@Ascendor @daniel

"We kill people based on metadata."

The server is very important.

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@algol @daniel For metadata the same applies. You can check which metadata the server will receive.
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@algol @daniel Signal has previously announced, which information the server has: "Unix timestamps for when each account was created and the date that each account last connected to the Signal service."

https://signal.org/bigbrother/central-california-grand-jury/

Feel free to check that in the client's source code.

Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

It’s the first half of 2021 – nearly five years since the “first half of 2016” – but in many ways not much has changed. The United Kingdom is still trying to figure out Brexit, another Justin Bieber song hit #1 on the charts (is it too late now to say sorry?), and Signal still doesn’t really know...

Signal Messenger
Show threadDaniel GultschMar 11
@Ascendor @algol that's both not true, because at the very minimum they have push tokens which tie your Signal identity to your Google account and something that law enforcement these days regularly asks for, and entirely not the point of my original post.
Show threadAscendorMar 11
@daniel @algol "entirely not the point of my original post." - well, there have been 7 posts (only in this thread) since your original post. The discussion has developed. I responded to it. Welcome to social media ;)
Show threadAscendorMar 12
@daniel @algol here's a recent example again, which data Signal have and deliver to governmental/security authorities: https://signal.org/bigbrother/district-of-columbia/
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@Ascendor @daniel

Shure, I trust Signal, I trust the US, I trust the FBI...

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@Ascendor @daniel

And the server knows which message goes to someone by what info?

And they are so big in privacy, to refuse usage without phone numbers?

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@algol @daniel

> And the server knows which message goes to someone by what info?

Why does a server need to know that?

> And they are so big in privacy, to refuse usage without phone numbers?

I don't like that fact as well. But you're asking the wrong person, I'm not affiliated with Signal.