Apparently it is time to say it again: You aren’t helping or achieving anything by squatting onto github/gitlab/irc/etc to tell people, that you think age verification is a bad idea.

1. Nobody involved thinks the laws proposed in some US states are a good idea.
2. There is a more nuanced discussion to be had whether some form of standardized parental controls are, but technical forums aren’t the place to do that either and the situation is heated enough, that even the most socially skilled people aren’t in the mindset for nuanced anymore. (Congrats!)
3. Unfortunately a large part of the FOSS space is financed by companies, who want to continue selling hardware with Linux and we live in a society. So if this becomes law, something will have to give. The correct way to oppose this is by participating in the process. Vote, write to your representatives, etc. (Or viva la revolution, good luck)
4. All you are doing by writing in those pull requests is pilling onto the abuse some of the most burned out people in the industry already experience over this and other even stupider topics.
5. Figuring out the line to walk between designing something adequate to comply to different (existing and proposed, potentially conflicting) legislation and privacy is difficult and you are not doing anybody a favor by making the space to do this in collaboration transparently and openly hostile. Ending up with various different/non-standard stacks to do this would have even worse consequences.
6. If you actually have technical feedback and are up-to-date on all the relevant context, of course you are welcome to participate. But expect to do the work in that case, just complaining will again not help.

Jeez.. people, you aren’t doing better than the wayland haters. And no, just being on the right side of the general debate, doesn’t justify this shit.
@drakulix "(Or viva la revolution, good luck)"
is this sincere?
@vepr_jako_pepr What relevance does that have to the topic at hand?
@drakulix In that solution of the prescence of this violent enforcement of surveillance should be a focus
@drakulix and these measures are being pushed through without either a mandate or general election so within representative democracy that only leaves appealling to the sentiment of current representatives which is not ideal.
The situation is bad and has to be acknowleged.
It is relevant to the post since sentiment maintenance is important
@vepr_jako_pepr This was a callout post of highly specific problematic/toxic behavior and by no means an attempt of an exhaustive listing of countermeasures, nor an essay about the effectiveness of said measures in our current or any hypothetical political system.

If that is the discussion you want to have on fedi of all places about this, feel free to start your own thread instead of hi-jacking this one.

I for one won’t be baited into seriously answering whether I would endorse a violent uprising in response to a joke I made.
@drakulix it doesnt have to be a defeatist solely violent war, and the jokiness is the problem.
And threads arent yours if its on a public platform with the intent to grow and become as big as possible!
You just have a name at the top
@vepr_jako_pepr Then we are at a fundamental disagreement, since I neither think fedi is a platform with intent to grow (nor is it my intent on this platform) nor do I think I need to engage with everyones opinion.