@ariadne anti-fingerprinting feels like a pyrrhic victory to the extent it can be achieved
sure, random webpages probably don't need to know how many cores you have (and thoughtful design could keep this available to those few which maybe do). but the thing that made me conclude this is Accept-Language:, a feature that is intentionally made worse for bilingual users in service of reducing fingerprintability. i think i'd rather have that than a (in practice) false promise about privacy
@whitequark @ariadne At some point we need to start legislating these things instead of trying to patch over them with technology.
Like, there is zero legitimate reason for fingerprinting to uniquely identify individual users at scale. It should simply be illegal. This does not preclude stuff like identifying bots. Ad stuff should just use cookies where allowed.
@ariadne @lina i ship an FPGA toolchain in the browser. it can* use multithreading. it needs to know how many threads to run to not contend on resources uselessly
* currently not built in that configuration for a variety of reasons that is not specifically tied to the web
@mcc @ariadne @lina i think this is a reasonable way to view the problem domain but i don't entirely agree—i think the web is about as close to "fully granular permission model, without vendor lock-in" as we ever got and perhaps will ever get, and that it's valuable that i can give a webpage access to a USB device while denying it everything else on the computer, like "filesystem"
unfortunately, i cannot in good faith say that the fully granular permission model works. technically it could be made to work, sure, but getting people to understand the exact consequences of granting X permission is probably a lost cause—it would take someone a lot smarter than me to figure out how to do it
unfortunately#2 the actual, real-world alternative to doing that is "download and run an .exe" or "curl | bash" which is strictly worse. so i just don't know
@hruske flatpak takes granular permissions but it does not make them usable. Unless you expect the user to understand what "uses a legacy window system" means in terms of permissions. Sandboxing isn't easy, nor is seamlessly injecting permission prompts into applications which weren't designed for it, but the actually hard part is the permissions model. It needs to somehow be comprehensible by ordinary folks, while not overly constricting for 'power users'.