The Picard ManeuverMar 10
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Show threadLaLuzDelSolMar 10
I mean the original line was “where no man has gone before” which at least made sense, although it didn’t represent the female crew very well.
Show threadDagwoodIIIMar 10

English uses ‘man’ and ‘mankind’ interchangeably.

Grammatically, ’no man’ makes more sense than ’no one.’

Show threadThe Picard ManeuverMar 10

I’ve always thought it was an odd change. I get why they did it, but the original clearly wasn’t being used in the way the change implies.

It has the same energy as saying that you can’t use the term “whitelist” and must substitute “allowlist”, or “master bedroom” to “primary bedroom”, or that time they changed “monkeypox” to “m-pox”.

Show threadEncrypt-KeeperMar 10
Yeah it’s be hard to argue TOS was excluding women in that sentence given the presence of female bridge crew members.
Show threadatomicbocksMar 10
You mean space secretary and space operator? The pilot had a woman as first officer but we couldn’t keep that for some reason…
Show threadCaptain Aggravated
The reason was Gene Roddenberry had cast his mistress in a costar role, and wasn’t yet the Lucas-esque TV god that could get away with it.
Mar 10 at 5:04pmWeb
Show threadatomicbocksMar 10
That’s true, but they could have kept the part as a woman. There were other motivations in removing the role entirely.
Show threadCaptain AggravatedMar 10

I honestly don’t know if Majel minded that much in retrospect; she’s still the only actress to voice the Enterprise herself. She died in 2008 and most recently voiced the Enterprise D in what? 2024?

Progress happened. Uhura wore Lieutenant’s stripes so Janeway could wear Captain’s pips.