BeepUber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US
Bluegrass_Addictcan males avoid women drivers or is that considered sexist? what if a male wants to mitigate the chance of being falsely accused of assault/rape? I hope people have the choice regardless of gender
It might be considered sexist, depending on who you ask.
The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault. Hence why there has been provided a measure for women at this scale, and not for men.
As a penis haver who has been falsely accused of sexual assault, it’s far more common than you think.
I’m sorry that you had to go through that, and I must emphasize that I do not wish to “let” anyone be exposed to this. However, I remain unconvinced that it’s “more common than I think”. The amount of sexual assault that women are exposed to is unfortunately far, far more common, and a bigger problem that should take precedence in being dealt with.
So how does fucking men out of that option help women? It’s not a zero-sum game. You must have a certain ulterior motive, the subtext is that you want innocent men to be accused of rape to take revenge for the innocent women who were raped.
Not hard to read that sort of thing, and I don’t care how many downvotes or anger this will provoke, I know you self-righteous folk, I know the truth.
The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault.
And you know this because… vibes?
Don’t take my word for it; look it up. But here, I’ll save you some time by spending my own:
worldmetrics.org/false-rape-allegations-statistic…
statista.com/…/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-th…
www.cdc.gov/nisvs/…/sexualviolence-brief.pdf
Say out of 140 000 reports of rape in one year, 4% are false. That leaves us with 5600 false accusations. And according to the survey shown by CDC, there’s an estimated 1.4 million women raped in 12 months.
But the fear of sexual assault is why women prefer women, so ain’t the fear of accusations a justifiable reason? Why does it have to be equal to matter?
Here: www.cdc.gov/nisvs/…/sexualviolence-brief.pdf
Men have so much less reason to fear compared to women. This is not saying they have nothing to fear, but the measures taken by uber is an attempt to protect those who are MUCH more prone to sexual assault and harassment.
The fear of accusations is not covered in this survey, nevertheless, if men feel fearful of accusations, imagine what women feel when they fear actually being sexually assaulted.
artyomThis is the shit that makes men look bad.
Men absolutely do not experience sexual harassment at the same level that women do.
It’s not close at all.
Why can’t we just let the women have a dub without being all “buhhh what about da men???”
That’s it, I’ve had it. Somebody get Joe Rogan in here so we can hash this out.
Ad women don’t experience accusations of sexual harrassment at the same level that men do.
Why can’t we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?
As much as you want to try to paint men as the victims, they’re just not.
Yes, it happens. No it doesn’t not happen nearly as frequently.
This issue is extremely skewed toward women.
What does this even mean lmao
I just don’t see this need to want to be a victim.
It’s not that complicated roflcopter. I don’t know how to break it down any further.
Why would you think anyone wants to be a victim?
Because you’re bending over backwards to try to show men as the victims of rampant sexual harassment when it overwhelmingly occurs to women.
Men are not being victimized here, women are just getting relief
I didn’t even so much as suggest that they were victims of any sexual assault at all. You just made that up.
I’m done with you homie.
You’re not a victim no matter how hard you try to be one.
men are being victimized.
'he raped me! ’
those words to a cop can essentially suspend a man’s life for an indeterminate amount of time. does it happen where men rape women? yeah, and it’s fucked… do some women use it as a weapon to get back at someone/ruin someone’s life? you bet your ass they do…
why can’t it be fair? why should a guy be forced to potentially endure that scenario when they hailed a cab…when the system is in place to protect 1 gender by giving choice. it’s not limiting her use of it or making it worse for her, it’s making it better for ALL that use the service.
stop thinking because one issue if objectively worse then the other, that the other should be dismissed. that’s horrible logic, heck it’s not even logic. it’s just stupid.
'he raped me! ’
those words to a cop can essentially suspend a man’s life for an indeterminate amount of time. does it happen where men rape women? yeah, and it’s fucked… do some women use it as a weapon to get back at someone/ruin someone’s life? you bet your ass they do…
Do you have any evidence at all that this happens even semi-regularly?
why can’t it be fair? why should a guy be forced to potentially endure that scenario when they hailed a cab
Because it doesn’t happen anywhere near as regularly as you’re trying to make it sound.
once is more then enough… it doesn’t need to happen regularly.
what’s your magic number threshold where an issue starts to matter…? clearly that’s what you’re getting at so I wanna know this magic number
equality is and should be everyone’s goals. if not, then might as well call free for all and never have special rules for anyone based on anything. society is about inclusion and equality, yet you only seem to want equality is specific scenarios. makes no sense… why half implement a rule when fully implementing it won’t have any effect on the first half? why not accessable to all…you’re just arguing for the sake of it.
Oi vey the drama
No one is saying that false allegations of sexual assault don’t matter.
exactly. why argue about equality for all on scenarios that are differing in terms of frequency, but still happen regardless of how often. women get assaulted and should be protected by allowing for choice, and men get falsely accused and should be protected by allowing for choice.
me = equality and choices for all
you = but women experience it worse, and it doesn’t happen as frequent for men so men shouldn’t have the same safety nets as women. (not equality)
This male victimhood complex is so fucking cringe man.
try not being sexist and desire equality… won’t make you look so pathetic
nobody is painting men as the victims anymore then they are painting women as victims.
women get raped more often, I wouldn’t deny that.
men get accused of raping when nothing happened and get dragged through hell more often then women do.
what’s wrong with equality? seriously… what’s wrong with it? no one asked for women to not have the service/choice, only to extend it for everyone. lol you’re mentally stuck on one issue and just refuse to see it as a whole picture. it’s kinda sad really.
Chloé 🥕are you trying to say being accused of sexual assault is the same as being sexually assaulted lmao
AdaWhy can’t we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?
At least part of it is because of people like you who get upset whenever someone challenges the grossly inequitous status quo.
that’s literally why I bought up the topic of equality… and you’re resisting it because… actually there is no reason to resist equality.
that’s literally why I bought up the topic of equality…
What you brought up is an appeal to maintain the current iniquitous status quo, by suggesting that the real problem with men being the aggressors in the vast majority of sexual assaults isn’t the sexual assaults, but that some men might be falsely accused. But hey, if women want to protect themselves from that, we should legalise excluding them and reducing their service options in other areas, because you know, that’s what equality looks like…
The thing is, you don’t give a shit about the real world manifestation of inequality. What you want is a platonic ideal of equality, which doesn’t exist in the real world, and using it as the measure, just ensures that real world inequality stays around and never gets challenged, because people like you can point to the rules and say “We already have equality” .
The thing is, you don’t give a shit about the real world manifestation of inequality.
That’s very rich coming from a powertripping admin.
You instance banned me without giving any justification. Shove your sense of real world inequality right next to the stick you’ve got up your a-hole.
You’re no different than a neckbeard reddit mod.
You instance banned me without giving any justification.
The reason will be in the modlog
But generally, it’s spam, transphobia and other bigotry that gets you banned.
And I asked you to point out exactly which post or comment of mine warranted the ban. You didn’t bother replying.
Powertripping as usual.
I know who you are though. Almighty arbiter of morality and bigotry.
And I’m pissed because you banned me from whole instance for something I had said on a completely different instance. I guess your fucking feelings got hurt and you decided to be a c…t.
It wasn’t bigotry but you decided it was. How the fuck you’re not getting it? How thick is your skull?
Yeah, I’m sure I was imagining it. You don’t seem like someone to throw around insults and misogyny
don’t tell me what I want. you lost all credibility by doing that. I have stopped caring about your words as a result.
equality, new rule (clearly not pushing status quo…) shuld be usable by everyone, not a select few.
stop pushing for inequality then gas lighting and assuming you know what someone desires
“Equality” is not a totalitarian concept. Different people can be equal in some areas and unequal in others. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.
Different people can be equal in some areas and unequal in others
So what you’re saying is that women being sexually harassed is just how it is in a society with equality?
Because if that’s not what you’re saying, I’m curious why you think a movement to reduce the disparity is a problem? Well, I’m not curious, I know the answer…
As a domestic abuser survivor (of a woman), a lot of us men are just not taken seriously. It is a lot like how people diminish one person’s pain/suffering just because it “isn’t as bad” as someone else’s pain. Men are absolutely abused, raped, and falsely accused. But because it happens to women more, we have to bear our suffering in silence.
No one is saying that men cannot be victims of harassment or assault.
However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.
Per RAINN, 57% of perpetrators are white. I’ll charitably imagine you’re attempting to point out perceived hypocrisy in gender vs race selection, but you’re perpetuating racist and xenophobic stereotypes. White men commit rape at more than twice the rate of black men, and naturally born citizens commit crimes at rates higher than both documented and undocumented immigrants.
If you want to make the case that it’s a discriminatory policy, you’re welcome to do so, but tying it to false perceptions of race is probably not the best move. It’s coming off as reactionary at best.
The actual argument is that it’s acceptable to discriminate against people of color because data shows they are considerably more violent than whites.
The same thing applies to discriminating against men because data shows they are considerably more violent than women.
Sexism and racism are okay if you have the data to back it up. Unless… this is a double standard and we’re allowing discrimination based on sex but not discrimination based on race?