Tim OltjenbrunsMar 10
J. B. Rainsberger (he)

"I hate planning meetings!"

Maybe. Maybe it would help if you saw people actually _planning_:

- changing the plan to reflect changing reality
- taking our anxiety seriously about missing deadlines
- figuring out what to say "No" to, then actually saying it

What do you think?

Mar 9 at 10:56amWeb
Show threadEnrique Comba Riepenhausen🇺🇦Mar 9
@jbrains agreed. I recently held two such meetings at a customer. The first was the initial desires of the company. The second was the reality check once the dev team got a chance of going over those desires
Show threadOrchun KolcuMar 9

@jbrains
Your list assumes there already is a plan to be worked on, but I think it may be common that no actual planning (which I think of as deep/slow work) and associated communication takes place outside the meeting - which makes the results predictably disastrous for most except for the manager who gets to check it off their list.

Which I think is a universal problem with most meetings designed as part of a process.

Show threadJ. B. Rainsberger (he)Mar 11
@orchun Thank you. I don't think the list changes if we specify "...for the first time" for each one. ;) That seems to me like a special case of what's already on the list.
Show threadJ. B. Rainsberger (he)Mar 12
@orchun Even a jumbled mess of future tasks in our mind is a plan, even if it's not a very clear one.
Show threadOrchun KolcuMar 12
@jbrains
I agree, acknowledging (and supporting) planning as such, a continuous activity like so much else in development, would do wonders.