My hot take, rogues, and their predecessors thieves, shouldn’t exist. Their monopoly on stealth, traps, locks, etc shouldn’t all be in one class, and instead should be stuff that other classes are expected to handle individually.

Are you suggesting that adventurers should know how to adventure? Blasphemy!

I’m definitely saying the most famous thieves from fantasy and legend are never rogues.

Literally bilbo baggins you goddamn casual

Every time I talk about this someone brings up Bilbo. He was a thief by employment, but he’s not a rogue or a thief by D&D standards, which is exactly my point. His entire story was about not being a thief but figuring it out as he was going. Conan was called a thief, but he’s not a rogue either. All the best thiefs aren’t rogues.

No True Roguesman type slander

The only rogue-esque quality Bilbo has is a species ability.