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DreamlandLividityExcept it’s just completely random numbers slapped on the footage.
care to name the weapon system and it’s actual cost for munitions and rearmament? Or is this a “trust me bro” moment?
I could go search for them, or you could notice that the pricetag is defferwnt for every of the 3 torpedoes shown.
Now can you facture in the person firing it, the ship it’s firing from, the cost to operate that ship, and the R&D costs of that weapon alone?
How? How do you assign how much of the R&D should be counted for the one missile fire or burst from a Phalanx?
And much more importantly, what for? How would pricing random weapons firing on a random video help anyone with anything?
For example, F35 cost like $2 trillion when all costs are considered, but only like $100mil each. Slight difference, right? And to the second part, that’s the whole point of the thread, how much money America would save if it wasn’t for these weapons.
The thread was started by me calling the numbers in the video bullshit. The thread was never about whether america spends too much on its military.
If the thread is about people who already agree with the point slapping each other on the back, sure, go ahead.
But if you want to convince anyone, you may not want your numbers to be obviously made up. Putting aside that the phalanx shooting is an order of magnitude off, the same torpedo has 3 different prices one after another. Even someone who has no idea how much these things cost can see it’s BS if they pay attention.
OK, but you also see how saying America would’ve saved $100mil if it didn’t have an F35 in a video would also be misleading, right?
One of the torpedos we are actively using in a Iran right now costs $4.8 million each.
One of the missiles shown I believe is the RIM-116 (not been in it for a while), each one costs $950,000.
The numbers shown might not be 100% accurate but they’re very much in the correct ballpark
What first made me completely disbelieve the video was the Phalanx costing hundreds of thousands in a few seconds. That’s order of magnitude wrong. Yes, the RIM-116 is in the ballpark although still too high.
Except the ultimate point is how much money we spend on pointless death. And you dissing a video for making that point when it got one wrong is kind part of it. It’s missing the forest for the trees.
Going bigger picture, the war in Iran is costing $70 million a day currently (actual estimates I’ve seen. even worse with Pentagon’s own billion a day estimate). That would cover food stamps for over ten million people. That’s the point of the video, not the specific numbers for a phalanx shell
It’s not getting one wrong. But much more importantly, if your point is backed up by fake numbers, no one who didn’t agree with you from the start is going to take you seriously. Pointing bullshit early is important, unless you want your greater point undermined by bullshit numbers.
This is especially true when you realize that some of the footage is from Russian ships. So the numbers can’t be precise.
But that doesn’t change the fact that we are spending billions a day to murder and poison innocent Iranians in an illegal war at the behest of israel, while our own citizens starve and die in our crumbling streets, or go bankrupt from medical debt, or are arrested for the color of their skin, their accent, or their political beliefs; or they get shot for being black, or brown, or mentally unwell, or just… confused because some cowardly undertrained, wife-beating, alcoholic asshole didn’t learn to use his hands growing up or learn like… an actual productive skill; or they get preventable cancers and die because of environmental deregulations, or they have to work well into their golden years because everything is unaffordable, and these same assholes are working tirelessly to destroy Social Security or Medicare and Medicaid. While millions of powerless people all over the world die from starvation or easily treatable illnesses because some tech bros wanted to end USAID, literally the only sort of halfway good thing we do in this world. The world is unlucky to have us as their neighbors. We are full of vile, self-obsessed, self-righteous scumbags. Fuck this country, and fuck the ethnostate of israel for all time. We are a net drain on humanity.