New South Dakota law allows voters to challenge other voters' citizenship

https://lemmus.org/post/20724959

I fucking hate my country now
I mean, you hated it before, but you hate it now too
it sucks because there are parts (state parks and county roads, and anywhere there’s good food mostly) that i absolutely love, but i would gamble it for life in one of the countries my ancestors comes from that has decided to open immigration up in a second. i just have to convince my wife and scrounge up the money.
State parks that now hand you a fucking glamour shot of a pedophile as a ticket and bar you from defacing it while that selfsame pedophile sells the oiliest parts of said nature to the highest bidder.
So they added pvp to voting
Time to start looking up every white-ass right-wing voter in the state that has a second home or spends early November out of state this year and challenge their registration 91 days before the 2028 election.
wait’ll white people start claiming indigenous people aren’t citizens.
You’re too late. ICE has already arrested people with Native American IDs, claiming they are invalid.
ICE has arrested people with valid REAL-IDs claiming they aren’t real. They’ll do whatever they want to whoever they want.

REAL-IDs

Are Native American IDs not real?

REAL ID Act - Wikipedia

Oh right! Ok, the comment makes more sense now. Thanks
You’re a little late en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_v._Wilkins
Elk v. Wilkins - Wikipedia

Just out of curiosity: What do you think 'll is the contraction of?
Not proper but it scans as “wait till”, as “til”, “till”, and “until” are interchangeable in common English, “till” being a somewhat archaic but still often used version.

Interesting

The preposition till is ubiquitous in informal register of modern English; nonetheless, in formal register it is often replaced with until or to, except in some varieties, such as Indian English. This predisposition is likely influenced by the widespread misapprehension that till is a clipping of until, which it is not (until being an enhanced form of till). The spelling 'til, itself also deprecated by some writers, was born of that same misapprehension.

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/till

till - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

Wiktionary
It’s a fairly common. I think YingYang Twins used it in a popular song. “Wait’ll you see this dick”
Til/Till is used quite a bit below the Mason Dixon line on the Eastern coast of the US, often related to time. Wait’ll is super prevalent there in speech.
Liberals love to pretend the law is self-enforcing and refuse to ask what role the state’s deeply racist and violent police and sheriff’s offices (nevermind any ICE agents operating in the state) will play.
That would be hilarious. Just start challenging anyone and everyone with a MAGAt sticker just before the election and lock them all down in pointless bureaucracy of proving their citizenship
It says you need some kind of documented evidence but I’m sure that’s pretty easy to gin up for a lot of people.
AI go brrrr…
Real chaotic good energy. I dig it!
I try. The world needs more chaotic good.

If a county auditor deems the challenge valid

The article doesn’t say how South Dakota county auditors are chosen, how they make decisions or what scrutiny they are subject to but I’m not sure I like your chances here

It doesn’t matter. If 50 people challenge every voter in the state, that’s almost 50m reports that need sorted. Ideally, there will be enough outrage that thousands of people will be reporting. Also, manually reporting without using an API to create a denial of service would be the best tactic. The point is to display how insipid the process is, not to cause a denial of service attack.
In the worst case, maybe they could simply disallow manual reports, and automate the selection of reports that match their desired outcomes, and the silent discard of all others.
flooding the office is the only way to deal with these things
We can “flood the zone”, too.

Do it. Let me know if I can help.

Don’t limit it to those that spend time out of state. It’s not your job to be accurate. I some everyone travels.

Republican Gov. Larry Rhoden signed legislation into law last week that authorizes challenges by individuals and election officials.

It would be a terrible shame if a bunch of people started challenging Larry’s citizenship.

“Rhoden”!?!

Sounds like a foreigner to me!

He’s obviously a very large monster from Japan. I’m thinking some kind of kaiju mosquito. Dibs on the band name
gonna be shocked when all the people challenged aren’t white while all the people challenging are.

Soooo…every reservation gonna challenge every South Dakotane citizenship?

God I hope so.

There’s a New South Dakota?
She’s a witch!
Who are you who is so knowledgeable in the ways of science?
My god, burn me!!
South Dakota? Home of Kristi Noem? UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Reunite the Dakotas!
So are there any pro-boner lawyers looking to challenge as many white people as they can?
“How could this go wrong?” Said absolutely no one.

Not being from the US, I was flabbergasted when I learned how voting laws are working there. Where I live we’re all automatically registered by the government. They send a card with your name and your address. If there is an error, or if if people don’t get a card, they can manually register or correct the error. And we all stay registered unless we move or there is an error. That’s it.

I’m in my mid life and had to register once in my 20ies because I moved a lot. Otherwise the government just automatically registers me. Nobody can challenge that except the election’s office. They decide who meets the requirements to vote or not. Not some random conservative asshole that thinks people are not white enough. Democracy in the US seems like a joke.

It isn’t a joke. Jokes are funny. This isn’t funny. If hasn’t been funny, ever.
It’s funny to them.

In Canada we have the same thing. You can every year when filling taxes tick off a box to update your voter info to save you the work. You also can register at the voting booth with ID, or proof of residence, or the statement of a registered voter in the area willing to vouch for you.

Basically zero voter fraud.

Voter ID and registration laws are pure voter suppression!

Voter ID and registration laws are pure voter suppression!

Indeed. I’m in Canada too so that’s why this is familiar to you. As an anecdote, I don’t drive and have no license. Once, a long time ago, an election worker was kind of insisting that I had to show one to vote. I had the other required documents and was able to vote but not having a diver’s license apparently made them suspicious. And that was my biggest hurdle with providing ID at an election!

Lots of comments can be read about people not going to vote, some even blaming them for the election results, but it’s just incredible how difficult they seem to make voting in the US.

www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids…

You can literally show up buck naked and have your next door neighbour vouch for you.

If anyone is prevented from voting, they should make a report regardless of if they think it was right or not.

Look at that list of acceptance ID, literally a pill bottle and your work issued ID will count as two pieces.

ID to Vote

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Elections Canada

In Canada, though, everyone has Some form of gov ID, if even just a health card (from the gov, With your pic and address).

Many, many Americans don’t have ID.

Also. “Real ID” is another animal, not produced in all regions, barely usable, a mess. If they’re demanding “real ID” the challenges will be exciting.

No not really, a bunch of us Canadians don’t have ID and there are alternate criteria to register

Okay. Now I’m agape.

No health card? How do you get broken arms fixed?

I get ‘no passport’ because Flatlanders especially don’t travel. I get ‘no DL’ because city rats don’t drive. No health card?!? I’ve had a health number since birth, and it’s been my gov id forever.

Honestly: how can that be?

You can go to the ER without documents, you would just need to sort out the bills later

There are a bunch of reasons someone might lose access to their documents, that shouldn’t interfere with their right to vote.

We don’t do “efficiency” round these parts.
How else are you going to legally bully and intimidate voters?
Good now challenge citizenship of all white ppl
GO BACK TO EUROPE YOU CHEESEWHEATS
“John Smith”? Doesn’t sound like a local name to me! Yeah don’t bother with the Dakota people ancestry either. They aint from around here. Oh you claim the land belongs to Paleoindian people called ‘Ugluk’ or ‘Kroar’? Well fuck off, glyptodonts should rule this place.

EZPZ.

Find red districts.

Cross reference with public address information.

Automate the challenge process.

Probably the most not-the-onion headline I’ve ever read. My brain keeps trying to illustrate it as comedy to explain it to myself in my mind.