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Recommendations for Anti-AI IDEs for coding

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Recommendations for Anti-AI IDEs for coding

Can anyone recommend some IDEs that don't use AI, not owned by awful corporations, and preferably no online features at all? Of course I am aware o…

Mar 9 at 8:01amWeb
Show threadHomosexual sapiensMar 9
Perhaps the KDE one, KDevelop, or maybe Eclipse. In the terminal I’d recommend Helix. It’s sort of like vim but with more intuitive controls (personal opinion, don’t kill me), and the functionality is built in to the core program rather than relying on many plugins. You only have to add an LSP server for code completion/popover documentation, just like VSCode
Show threadArghblargMar 9
Yes, Eclipse. 20-year-ago me would have a stroke saying that (due to it being pretty ‘heavyweight’ for the PCs back then) but it’s got support for any language you can think of with plugins and an app store for everything. But, no AI crap unless you seek it out, I presume.
Show threaddjangoMar 9
I remember running Eclipse with 1GB of RAM 😭
Show threadzod000Mar 9
Eclipse definitely earned its hate for a long time, but it’s heaviness waned more and more as systems got faster and had more ram. By the time I stopped using it, it was practically snappy and that was over ten years ago. That being said, I’m not exactly excited to jump back into it.
Show threadCreatMar 9

It’s been a few years (not many, just a few) but last I used eclipse it was clunky, slow and cumbersome for everything you wanted to do. Even relatively simple tasks ended up being tedious. Finding any option or feature usually required Google.

It also loved crashing, a lot.

Show threadhendrikMar 9
Maybe Gram (a Zed fork). And VSCodium as a popular choice but ultimately that’s Microsoft. But there’s a bazillion code editors in any Linux repository, some more general, some very good at a specific programming language.
Why fork Zed?

What motivated me to fork Zed

Show threadsolrizeMar 9
Emacs Makes All Computing Simple.
Show threadthatonecoderMar 9
You obviously mean Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping, no?
Show threadzod000Mar 9
That was a much better insult back in the day. Now that feels like a compliment (swapping aside I suppose).
Show threadscoutfdtMar 9
OP said gentler, not please destroy my pinky (jokes aside emacs is great but there’s a lot to cinfigure)
Show threadpaequ2Mar 9
OP said IDE, not operating system…
Show threadLiketearsinrainMar 9
You won’t have many choices, VS Codium (VS Code fork), KDevelop, Eclipse and NetBeans.
Show threadenbiousenvyMar 9
Kate
Show threadJetpackJacksonMar 9
Kakoune, Helix, Kate
Show threadkittenzrulz123Mar 9

Have you heard of the lazyvim config for neovim?

Show threadtiny_hedgehogMar 9
OK, yeah, this makes it a bit easier to tackle the learning curve of vim. Thanks, I’ll give this a go.
Show threadCarrotsHaveEarsMar 9

I’m still going to recommend Vim.

Have you tried typing vimtutor to your terminal emulator and press enter?

I also did a quick search and found this interactive tutorial website of Vim.
openvim.com

OpenVim - Interactive Vim tutorial

Show threadComradeMiaoMar 9
gedit
Show threadclifMar 9

Helix was mentioned in a few posts but no link so here : helix-editor.com

If you love the terminal, it’s fantastic. I like it better than NeoVIM but, admittedly, I didn’t spend a lot of time trying to get to know nvim. It’s much better than VIM for code because it was built for that, not “just” a text editor that got forced into IDE service. (Not to denigrate VI/VIM, I love them, but Helix is more powerful for dev related tasks).

If you hate the terminal… keep moving, nothing to see here.

Helix

A post-modern modal text editor.

Show threadnightlilyMar 9
People are recommending vim but unfortunately the lead maintainers are now slopcoders. Evi is a fork from before the brainrot set in codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi
evi

EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.

Codeberg.org
Show threadpaequ2Mar 9

Someone is working on a list: codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware#editors

Maybe? lap.dev/lapce/

open-slopware

Free/Open Source Software tainted by LLM developers/developed by genAI boosters, along with alternatives. Fork of the repo by @gen-ai-transparency after its deletion.

Codeberg.org
Show threadflamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)Mar 9
There’s Pulsar, a fork of the discontinued Atom.
Pulsar Edit

Show threadlemmyrobMar 9
Geany?