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Gaëtan Perrault Mar 7

@ChrisPirillo this is a great idea!

eighthourlunch Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo If it's 100% local, why have it in the browser at all? Also, uploading a scan of my handwriting to a server I don't know or control sounds risky as hell.

@eighthourlunch hence, local. If you don't believe me, view source. It's just a single page web app. No databases. Hell, not even localstorage.

Andy Gajdosik Mar 8

@eighthourlunch @ChrisPirillo as a developer you need to codesign the binaries and that costs something.

Apple developer account costs 100usd per year.
For Microsoft you need to get extended validation certificate, which costs like 250Usd per year.

That could be one reason.

ScriptFanix💍

@ChrisPirillo
I'm doubtful. I mean: getting a computer to write as badly as I do sounds impossible. I'll try it, but I'm warning you: if the output is legible I want my money back!

Maho 🦝🍻Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo I love this!

Ewen Bell 📸Mar 8

@mapache @ChrisPirillo

Holy smokes is this for realz?

I like Chris' handwriting better than mine though can I just buy his font please?

@ewen @mapache why not

Bin Chicken 🗑𓅠 Mar 8

@ewen Yeah-nah, I'll give it a miss. This vibe-coding fails on Step 1 where it specifies a paper size that induces a "PC LOAD LETTER" error that drives people in most parts of the world into such a rage that they smash their printer into smithereens. I don't know what it means that a planet-boiling chatbot connected to an IDE didn't include an option for A4 paper, but it says something about the human who thought it's a good idea to publish the result.

Daniel Carosone Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo first thought, if it's local, use a different word than "upload".

That's bound to cause confusion - either in your app, or elsewhere by normalising the idea of there not really being a distinction.

Not sure what else to suggest, but perhaps "provide" or "select" or "copy"

@uep that's a good detail to sweat. Let me think about that.

@uep made some adjustments. Clarified.

MyYeeHaa Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo Nice!! Thank you!

@MyYeeHaa let me know!

@ChrisPirillo Love it! But I'm german and need Ää, Öö, Üü and ß
Will you add them to your template? that would be incredible!
(Maybe the scandinavian types as well: Åå, Œœ, ooops, now I think of polish types …)

@exil_inselette it creates a lot of those characters automatically.

@ChrisPirillo oh, wow!
Edit: No, it does not.
I'm sorry for being so critical, but your tool is so great/works great, I'd love to use it, but I need the correct character set, otherwise I can't use it *cries loudly*

Jerome Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo @exil_inselette I'll second the request for diacritics and A4 paper size.

Ralph Angenendt Mar 8

@dl2jml @ChrisPirillo @exil_inselette The Code to generate these is there. And as the code is also looking for calibration marks - have you tried printing on A4 paper?

I haven’t, as I didn’t find time yet, but please: You’re sounding extremely entitled to something you’ve been given for free. How about helping to debug?

E.g., „I tried printing in A4, I expected this to happen, but I got this result - could you pleas take a look?“

@exil_inselette @der_mit_ph @ChrisPirillo

Jerome Mar 8

Let me rephrase this.
1) I am thankful for the effort and I think it is a great idea.
2) I am only adding my voice that these features are important. That may help to prioritize what features are developed, should the developper want to further improve the software.
3) There is no obligation to the developper to do anything beyond what we already have.

1/2

@der_mit_ph @ChrisPirillo @exil_inselette

Jerome Mar 8

Now to your question about A4 paper. There is no print function for that paper in the web page. It is downloaded as a pdf and then I am supposed to print it using standard OS commands. I can print it on any paper size, obviously.
However, the page explicitly states that I should not resize the pdf to print. But if I don't resize the paper, parts of the pdf are outside the sheet.

2/2

@dl2jml @der_mit_ph @exil_inselette working on A4.

@dl2jml @der_mit_ph @exil_inselette update posted.

@der_mit_ph @dl2jml @exil_inselette let me iterate.

@ChrisPirillo Sorry, another Question: It only creates capital letters?
🥺

@exil_inselette it creates whatever you draw.

@ChrisPirillo I understand. But I need upper and lower case letters in one font, because in German the first letter of many words is capitalized. But as I understand the template, I have to enter three identical letters?

@exil_inselette you can choose which character you want for each row. You could do uppercase in the first row, lowercase in the second row.

Daniel Durrans Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo does the template have to be that size or will A4 paper work ok?

@dan the template is pretty locked in right now. There's only so much I can do but this is at least a start.

cuan_knaggs Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo now, if only people could read my handwriting i could use this

@mensrea that's for the next version. LoL

s0 Is Not A Sysadmin Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo this seems super, but is there a plan to support A4 (being the paper size everyone except North America uses)? I couldn’t print something in 8.5”x11” paper even if I wanted.

@s0 let me see what I can do.

@s0 by the way, it's done. 😜

flo Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo
That's great!
Just yesterday that's what I thought about!
Thanks, mate!

@fasnix it's what I do. 😂

Twoowls Elt 🦉 🦉Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo brilliant! Thank you

@ChrisPirillo I've tried it now. It's really great! But there's one thing I really miss: correct quotation marks. In German, we do them like „this“: a small 66 at the bottom front, a small 99 at the back (not actual numbers, of course, but the numbers illustrate where they are thick and how they are curved).
Edit: I tried entering them as alternatives to " but I can't get them to work on the keyboard :(

@exil_inselette I just posted an update.

Mar 9

@ChrisPirillo will try tomorrow! 😍

alina cyborg mouse

@ChrisPirillo can you please start putting alt text on your images? you've been part of the Internet for so long, if anyone might understand the importance of alt text I'd assume it would be you

Joerg Jaspert

@ChrisPirillo Nice! How much will it be off if I print on A4 instead of Letter size paper?

@Ganneff let me see what I can do.

@Ganneff update posted.

Joost van Baal-Ilić Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo i love this, awesome work

@joostvb thank you!

@ChrisPirillo While I appreciate both the effort and craft - you clearly overestimate the legibility of my handwriting. By a lot.

@cpy I am not responsible for that. 😜

orsomaria Mar 8

@ChrisPirillo Bro, you cooked up a hit great

@orsomaria 😎

I am sooo glad that our entire ecosystem is being destroyed for something absolutely impossible to avoid such as... check notes... bad handwriting fonts.

SamuelJohnson Mar 8

@Rockerz @ChrisPirillo Just FYI

I have a signature font I created with Fontographer. It contains three signatures: my initials, first name and full name.

More than once I have had to return "signed" copies of documents by reply and in circumstances where I could create PDFs but wasn't able to print.

Chopping down trees to print, then scan, then email, or worse, expend energy transporting documents, isn't the alternative you think it is.

Any font that avoids that necessity is useful.

Rockerz Mar 8

@samueljohnson

You completely miss the point. Whatever use cases you can find for these fonts it doesn't address the problem of creating a software using AI. **THIS** is the point.

As you pointed out, this kind of tool exists since almost forever, I remember using some probably even before the Y2K bug stuff. There were no LLM back then. Developing software means doing your bloody job (yes, even if this job happens on your spare time and then given for free). Is it tedious? Yes. So what?

SamuelJohnson Mar 8

@Rockerz I see. You're against algorithms you can run locally that can create a handwriting font but presumably would have no issue with similar algorithms that run locally that do handwriting recognition. Got it.

I'm tempted to wonder what would have made your point more clearly.

Rockerz Mar 8

@samueljohnson A lot could be discussed about the process to create a actual font (I have no clue regarding how this software works, how much ressources it uses and whether or not it could be done differently) but that is not the point.

I am, though, firmly against building anything with so-called "vibecoding" (and being proud of it), thus contributing to destroy our hability to survive as a species. The waste of ressources for that is very real. This is developer lazyness destroying the world.

https://mastodon.social/@ChrisPirillo/116178076740432072

Rockerz Mar 8

@samueljohnson By the way: I made myself clear twice, regarding what my primary concern is. I re-read myself to be sure of that. So I can't help but start to wonder if you are deliberately missing the point here. I hope not.

See this?

I have concerns about almost everything there. Serious ones.

SamuelJohnson Mar 8

@Rockerz You made yourself clear twice?

Kindly forgive my not understanding you even once. I completely missed any reference to vibecoding or AI in your response.