AI6YR BenABC News:Heat advisory set to take effect during LA Marathon
*** So, personal story here: my son is a flight medic/Search and Rescue, and there was a half marathon here in our area this year. Most of the runners in the half marathon probably didn't take heed, but there was a mass casualty incidence where many people got heat illnesses (multiple ambulances called). One of the runners collapsed far up on the trail, and had to be medevac'd out by helicopter. That runner died. So... heat during a marathon... not a small matter.
Anarchist Trans Ace PirateI was a safety coordinator at my last job. one component was the effects of heat exposure. I learned a lot but what really taught me about how the human body responds to high temperatures was Jeff Goodell's The Heat Will Kill You First. He describes in vivid detail exactly what happens inside your body at high temps. It's all bad but how the human body attempts to cope is fascinating. Also, Rhabdomyolysis is horrible and can affect anyone. Your level of fitness will not prevent it.
nshrubs@coolcalmcollected @ai6yr This was always the message to Grand Canyon hikers when I lived in Flagstaff & it was ignored by a large number of hikers, most often younger or older males.
hiker Dan Becker filmed himself getting rhabdo and it's after effects. it looks excruciating.
(there's a follow up episode that will be in the suggested video side bar which should be watched as well)
I got 🚨RESCUED🚨 hiking the Grand Canyon.. Here's what happened..
@coolcalmcollected @ai6yr Ugh! I know this has happened more than a few times to PCT hikers - most often the ultralight hikers who are trying to do 25-30 miles a day without enough rest & fuel. Seems like it happens the most in the Sierras & the North Cascades area (like section K!), where there is a lot of altitude gain & loss each day.
Darwin Woodka@Nshrubs @coolcalmcollected @ai6yr
I hiked the canyon with my dad and brother in my teens, we were hiking up the north rim, huffing and puffing and stopping often with our packs, my brother just walked up quickly since he lived in Flagstaff at the time. As we got to the rim, some runners came down past us, no packs, no shirts, no hiking shoes. We kind of laughed, it was funny, but I can see in a heat wave people would get into serious trouble there.
@darwinwoodka @coolcalmcollected @ai6yr Some of the Search & Rescue guys used to run rim-to-rim-to-rim about once a month for training/conditioning purposes when I lived in Flagstaff. I'd also sometimes see them running up the road to Inner Basin & hiking up Humphreys (12,6K) or going up Snowbowl road - so running at 8000-10,000 ASL, then hiking up to almost 13K. Difference is they were ALWAYS prepared.
Human 3500@Nshrubs
I saved a guy's life in the Grand Canyon. We had hiked down a ways and had turned to come back up. We'd stop and rest and drink water every so often so we'd see the same hikers passing us time and time again.
One guy was struggling more and more as we saw him so when he caught up with us one time, i told him i was taking his pack and would hike it out.
He said no. A woman yelled at him and another couple with them agreed that he needed to surrender his pack. So he did.
We hiked out with the other woman and i gave her his pack at the top.
We met up with the four of them at El Tovar later that night. They had hiked rim to rim and camped over night at the bottom. He wasn't eating enough food on the climb out.
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@human3500 @Nshrubs @coolcalmcollected @ai6yr
Glad you were there to help out!
@darwinwoodka
Thanks. I'd hope most would help.
I didn't dig into his problem during the ordeal. They had lots of food - he just didn't eat on the trail for some reason. I think i just assumed he was out of shape.
I figured once we were at the top the woman would arrange help if needed. It was some time ago and cell phones were not ubiquitous.
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@human3500 @Nshrubs @darwinwoodka @coolcalmcollected Glad you were able to help out. Rim to rim... yikes.
@ai6yr
Even the descent is a killer. Hard to imagine staying overnight without a hot tub to really let the aches set in, and then climb a mountain out the next day.
But i understand there's no shortage of people wanting to do it.
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@human3500 @ai6yr @Nshrubs @darwinwoodka
if hubris could be a source of power, a la monsters Inc and fear, it would run everything on the planet for the rest of time
Rich Stein (he/him)@ai6yr @human3500 @Nshrubs @darwinwoodka @coolcalmcollected
When I lived in LA,we planned a great rim to rim weekend(!) adventure — two cars, two crews, met at the bottom and swapped keys (no idea why we didn't exchange spares at the outset — youth wasted on the young... 🤪). We all (five of us?) met back in Las Vegas, showered and and slept in a cheap room before driving back to the coast in time for work on Monday.
Anyway, hydrate, HYDRATE! Martin did, Kamau did not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-15627613/nathan-martin-la-marathon-win.html
Nail-biting moment American surges past exhausted rival in final strides of LA Marathon to snatch last-second victory
The long-distance runner, from Michigan took two hours, 11 minutes and 18 seconds to run the 26.2-mile course on Sunday, but nobody expected the result to come down to a split-second.
Giflian@coolcalmcollected @ai6yr came back to find this comment to say thanks for the book recommendation (even if it wasn't directed at me), I'm listening to the audiobook now