I would never describe myself as a "capitalist" but I do kinda understand the structure and function of markets a little bit, and it's sometimes frustrating chatting with leftists whose entire experience of markets has been watching the enormous trash-fire of post-2008 dysfunctional crime-based capitalism destroy the possibility of them ever owning a home. Like if you really liked trains but lived in a town where 3/4 of the population had been killed by a chemical supply train derailment

"We should have better public transit!"

"Transit, what do you mean?"

"Like… you know… trains"

"Trains? Those machines that kill your entire family in wracking pain with clouds of poison from a realm beyond nightmares? Why do you want more of those?"

"Yeah but not like that"

@glyph This is dangerously close to sounding like "not all machine learning"
@jwz yeah I get that. It's made even more difficult to talk about my own policy preferences in that every pro-capital-C-Capitalism argument is laundered through a starting-point like the one I think is valid. "But isn't it good if people can have an incentive to dedicate their own resources to infrastructure?" immediately gets a chain of a hundred syllogisms to "and thus, Elon Musk must be able to hunt anyone he pleases for sport anywhere in Australia, which he now exclusively owns".