InnerworldSeagate just unleashed 44TB hard drives
Useless article. No dates, prices, specs other than the capacity, etc. It does mention this is a new HAMR platform that might reach 100TB in a drive someday.
bonenodeLijely they are anyway already all “bought” with non-existing money by the usual suspect…
fallaciousBasisI got some inches to sell you.
Inches of what?
Just inches, bro. All the inches you could ever want.
The dates are “now”
The price is irrelevant, because they aren’t for you or regular consumers. They’re already reserved and being shipped to AI data centers.
It would have been nice to know what the read\write speed was.
The price is irrelevant, because they aren’t for you or regular consumers. They’re already reserved and being shipped to AI data centers.
I mean this is the standard operating procedure for all top end data center products, they aren’t sold on consumer marketplaces but can be purchased by suppliers with existing contracts and relationships
As they ramp up yields larger capacity drives will slowly trickle into more consumer channels until eventually the 40+TB drives are like the 8-12tb drives are today
Literally nobody in the consumer market will care, and the DC crowd won’t buy this until they can prove failure rates.
The consumer market will care. They’ll just be priced so far out of the market, it’ll be unrealistic of them to ever hope to buy one.
Dr. WeskerThey can suck my dick and balls. None of this benefits the average consumer.
LeonI assume that’s the same way people felt like in 1980, when IBM released the world’s first >1GB hard drive.
It was as big as a fridge and cost $100k in today’s money to buy, for a whopping 2.5GB of storage.
My astrophotography projects are several GB each, my phone can shoot 4k RAW video that eats up 6GB a minute and it’s all hobby-level.
I wouldn’t mind if those 44TB drives became more affordable in a few years, I’m already saving up for a 24TB NAS.
RememberTheApollo_I don’t get the responses disagreeing with you. Citing as-yet undefined needs of an AVERAGE consumer while completely disregarding that the people on Lemmy are far more tech-focused and that the average tech level of a consumer is that they can’t even turn the computer off and on again. Almost nobody needs such massive storage, it’s a very niche need. The vast majority would never run out with 1TB. I’ve got 3TB and a huge collection of music, movies and photos I’ve backed up and there’s still room to go. The clowns disagreeing with you are running an -arr stack and thinking “I could fill that…”
deegeeseaimed at AI-scale data growth.
This is an important part that the responses glossed over. The responders suddenly forgot that they were just recently sold down the river for this aim, and seem to think that it won’t continue.
Right, I’m never going back to Seagate. Their drives are shit. Although I did have 2 IronWolf 10TBs setup in raid and they have been going nearly 8 years nonstop now.
I don’t understand the hate against Seagate. I’ve only had Seagate in my PCs and none have failed for me in the span of almost two decades. In fact, the first ones I had are still around not having failed yet.
VindictiveJudgeSeagate drives are like crows - if you don’t get along with one, they tell their friends and harass you. For any given user, either Seagate drives are perfectly fine and last ages no matter what is done to them, or every single one they touch will self destruct with the lightest use for no reason. That it really does seem to vary by user rather than specific models or production runs is the baffling part.
That’s the thing I am trying to point out. Like if you get lucky some of their models appear near perfect and seem to keep lasting forever.
But I’ve experienced the other side of the coin where I had a hard hardware failure on a hdd, the warranty and replacement process was insanely painful. Then when I finally got a replacement it also had a failure. Same painful replacement process. The 3rd one wasn’t even the same model but at least it worked.
One of the sister drives of the first one had a hardware failure shortly afterwards. I didn’t even bother going through the RMA process and just migrated to Samsungs.
Louis Rossmann says his business works on Seagate more than any other brand.
brapHave Seagate sorted their shit out? I have never had any other manufactures drives fail so often in the last 25 or so years. I have them a fresh chance about 10 years ago in a PS4 and guess what? It failed.
This just sounds like 44Tb of fucking about restoring data to me.
LeFrogIn Germany there is a saying that goes like
Seagate, oder Seagate nicht
where “Seagate” sounds like “sie geht” (“she works”; the word “hard drive disk” is femininum in German).
So it translates to “She works, or she does not work.” or “Sometimes they work, sometimes they do not work”
ExecIf they’re willing to sell unreliable trash to consumers, why should we trust them at all?
Having had several of their drives fail and then received multiple, non-functional drives for a warranty replacement, I will not trust them again.
The datasheets are public. WD and Toshiba has their own consumer hard drives. Check the Mean Time Between Failures, Read Errors per Bits Read, and Power On Hours per Year rows for them. The consumer ones usually have at most half of the values compared to the enterprise counterparts.
I have had many, many drives over the years. Seagate took a huge dive in both quality and support over a decade ago. I searched my email to find
Interesting that you downvote me for having a different experience than you. Are you a paid fan boy or do you do it for free?
It’s just my opinion but the “brand war” on HDDs is a little overblown in my opinion. I too recall one or two periods where Seagate got bad pr for quality issues, but I’m not concerned that 10 years later any HDD I buy from them is going to croak as soon as it’s half full. There’s no way they would still be in business if that image is true. I think many times if there is a different in quality between brands it’s the difference between 99.999% and 99.998% - gasp! double the failure rate! - and then it evens out again.
Did this article really need ai thumbnail when actual pics exist & are freely available?
Also the HDD itself is going deep into the mines of slop, so in a way it’s appropriate, still gross tho.
They probably have no one who can photoshop „44TB“ on a Hard Drive and don‘t think it‘s worth hiring someone on Fiverr to do it. Media designers, being the creatives that they are were always undervalued and among the first to lose their jobs to AI.
I mean, yes obv, my point was if it was really needed for that.
At the end of the day they still want things to look flashy of course. They know they need a thumbnail to stick out. They don‘t value creative work because it‘s hard to measure and it‘s everywhere. So the question emerges „Oh, how hard can it be when it is everywhere?“ That sentiment is multiplied times 10 since image generation became a thing. The internet already looks like a soulless slop machine because creative work is undervalued but still needed everywhere.
Only AI companies is going to see the things, the way things are going.
ebolapieIts not like the people will get it. Just useless slop companies.
Now if only those 20tb HDDs came back down in price, some are sitting at twice to three times their original release price.
Are there really articles for every completely expected tech advance like this?
Joanie ParkerProbably like $4k each.
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A_Random_IdiotShit like this aint meant for you and me.
Its meant for big industrial scale data whores, like Palantir, and youtube, and CIA.