TIL: Iranian Women Graduate in STEM at Nearly 3× the Rate of U.S. Women — and Has 5× More PhD Students Per Capita

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TIL: Iranian Women Graduate in STEM at Nearly 3× the Rate of U.S. Women — and Has 5× More PhD Students Per Capita - Lemmy.World

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Mostly because they gotta wear a hat.
Keeps the thoughts from evaporating.

The only group I know of trying to quantify womens rights internationally as a whole is here: giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

Iran ranks 140 / 181 which isn’t great, but could be a lot worse. Education is a factor, but Iran loses points elsewhere. The most notable item related to this headline is probably employment percentage which sits at 14.8% (Highest in group is Qatar at 65.5%). For negative impact, the reported stats on domestic violence and related items are worth reading into.

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Qatar is dubious however, as of their 2.6m population only 300k are citizens and the rest are indentured workers, so naturally there will be a lot of women in “employment”.
Qatar is probably creating some interesting demographics. It is vaguely implied that data is restricted to citizens but can’t find where that’s directly clarified so who knows. You could compare outside the group with Denmark (The overall #1 spot) at 77.9% or the United States at 71.2% and China at 57.7%.
F1 TV on Apple TV this year is SO much better than Sky on ESPN. What the hell have I been watching for the last many years?
Iranians are some pretty smart people in my experience. Long history of thinkers, I suppose.

Ok, the women stat is neat, great, & impressive, but we all know that.

I was gonna bitch that the per capita stat is bs bcs demography differences (way more boombers per capita in USA & way more young ppl in Iran) & they put it in the title just for clicks - but that didn’t account for all the difference.

USA:

First female fields medal (basically nobel prize for mathematics, huge deal) winner was Iranian too.
Congratulations on finding the Gender-equality paradox rabbit hole!
Gender-equality paradox - Wikipedia

I’m sure the US will "fix this “problem” ASAP. See also Afghanistan and Iraq.
Don’t forget that Iran / Persia is ancient civilization, way older than modern western mainstream.

Ok.

What’s your point?

Yeah, those ancient civilizations can do no wrong. Like Judaism.
if it wasn’t already a reason for fear, those Christians would be absolutely horrified and in disbelief of such power
Given the gender-equality paradox, this might not be as good a thing as it seems.
Could you expand on that a bit? This gender equality paradox is new to me, and I read it’s a disputed finding on worse gender inequalities in nations that are typically perceived as more progressive when it comes to gender equality. Leaving the dispute aside for a bit and assuming this is a straight up observed scientific that’s actually real, I don’t really see how a larger than expected gender inequality in, say, Denmark, makes higher rates of education in another nation a bad thing. Not saying it isn’t, just saying this line of thinking is new to me, and I’m not able to find the link just yet.
I’m gonna guess and say that fewer women are in higher education, and the ones that are are progidies. Therefore higher graduation rates for women.

First of all, why guess?

Secondly, I don’t see the link with gender inequality in Denmark.

Not sure why the immediate defense, but I’m just guessing why women have a higher graduation rate. Idk.
Ah sorry, I thought you were the gender equality paradox guy I replied to. I’m quite keen to learn a bit more about it.
Because in the USA it’s discouraged for girls/women to study STEM because it hurts men’s egos. In the 80s the ads for home computers, when home computing started to really take off, tended to focus on how it was a boy activity.
If I was a woman trapped in Iranian culture I’d want to go get an education too.
Bombing Iranian school girls to increase the comparative amount of educated women in the United states is the exact kind of 5D chess I’ve come to expect of Americans.