Andrew RadevVim's lead maintainer has fully lost his goddamn mind
ploum@AndrewRadev @fabi1cazenave : Switching to @neovim becomes ideological.
Or, even better, vis !
kazé@ploum @AndrewRadev @neovim
Vim has been in maintenance mode for years now, so switching to Neovim has been a very practical concern for most users. However I feel a bit sad to know that Vim has become so understaffed that even this “maintenance mode” is not sustainable any more.
About #Vis… not sure I could work without LSP on a regular basis. 🙂
A modern editor should be built around LSP + DAP + TreeSitter, imho — not VimScript and regex. But yes, a minimal editor would be nice to see. ^^
> Vim has been in maintenance mode for years now
This doesn't actually mean anything. There have been many new features in Vim since Bram's passing. 40% of neovim commits in 2025 were patches from Vim (https://bsky.app/profile/neovim.io/post/3mbc2kvhxvk2l)
> Switching to neovim becomes ideological.
Neovim has been actively using and accomodating LLMs for a while already: https://hachyderm.io/@AndrewRadev/116183128128063458
@AndrewRadev @ploum Yes, I saw your message but despite my hate for LLMs, it still feels more like FUD to me:
– the issue in the very first link is quite clear about the intentions (screenshot);
– if AI is detected in PRs, that should certainly be flagged so extra caution is taken if merged;
– Justin MK used a quick slop image to announce the merge of `pack`, well, it’s silly but it doesn’t affect Neovim’s codebase. And that was 9 months ago.
I’ll make my opinion on PRs, not this.
@AndrewRadev @ploum Oh, and about Vim being in maintenance mode that “doesn’t mean anything”: that’s Chris Brabandt’s own words, not mine.
https://thenewstack.io/vim-after-bram-a-core-maintainer-on-how-theyve-kept-it-going/
Whether Vim can get out of that mode, that’s something we’ll see in the future — but with other projects like Neovim and Helix out there, that’s not what I’d bet on. Time will tell.
Ayush Agarwal (आयुष अग्रवाल)@ploum neovim is still vim so it doesn't really help, they regularly pull changes and patches from vim
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