FallenWalnutMar 7

Fairphone posted 83% year-on-year growth in Q4 2025 - A journey away from Big Tech to a more sustainable alternative

https://lemmy.world/post/43965569

Fairphone posted 83% year-on-year growth in Q4 2025 - A journey away from Big Tech to a more sustainable alternative - Lemmy.World

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516 [https://lemmy.world/post/43965516] > It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile. > > For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

Show threadpelespirit

the Jolla phone is the way to go

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

Edit: commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26

Jolla Phone (Sep 2026)

Mar 7 at 6:28pmWeb
Show threadartyomMar 7
I mean the downsides are it’s Linux. That’s not without it’s upsides but the downsides are huge.
Show threadpelespiritMar 7
Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don’t play nice? I 100% don’t know what the downsides would be.
Show threadartyomMar 7
From my research, the phone part of the “phone” doesn’t work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.
Show threadWolfmanEightySixMar 7
That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…
Show threadbleistift2Mar 7
Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.
Show threadWolfmanEightySixMar 7

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

Show threadartyomMar 7
I’m on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯
Show threadSeductiveTortoiseMar 7

Goes both ways, I’d be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

“What a shame, better write an e-mail.”

Show threadartyomMar 7

Goes both ways

No one else is suggesting that everyone talks on the phone.

Show threadSeductiveTortoiseMar 7
We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.
Show threadartyomMar 7

WTF is a “communication partner”?

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it’s not urgent or doesn’t require discussion or you just don’t like me.

Show threadSeductiveTortoiseMar 7
Well the way you write I’m not surprised people don’t like you.
Show threadartyomMar 8
LOL because yours was so much nicer?
Show threadWhyJiffieMar 8
kind of, yeah
Show threadWhyJiffieMar 8

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox.

that sounds like a different, bigger issue.

Show threadartyomMar 8
Nope, it’s the same issue. Your calls are not lost in my inbox.
Show threadWhyJiffieMar 8
no. the issue is that your inbox is full of unclassified spam
Show threadartyomMar 8
Weird, my phone isn’t full of unclassified spam.
Show threadpfrMar 8

The future of industry is doomed with gen z being militantly unwilling to take a phone call. But I am holding onto some hope because I hear they’re also spearheading the CD music revival, so I just hope they also recognise the retro-coolness of telecommunication. 

Otherwise, the art of verbal communication will die. People will meet and connect via text, only to be completely overwhelmed when they meet irl and have to talk to one another face to face. But social life is inconsequential. But at the end of the day, for the purpose of business communication, if you can’t talk on the phone, your just a fucking pussy.

Show threadLudicrous0251Mar 7
I’m with you - I’d pay extra for a phone that doesn’t take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.
Show threadbaronvonjMar 7
could you not just get a data-only SIM?
Show threadartyomMar 7
Just delete all your phone apps and then you won’t get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.
Show threadmesaMar 7

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect…

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

Show threadmesaMar 7
Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!
Show threadartyomMar 7
We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone
Show threadaeggMar 7
Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.
Show threadartyomMar 8

It was a common complaint I can’t across when researching a few different Linux devices.

I guess if you’re not probably having issues I must be wrong, because everyone’s experiences should mirror yours, exactly.

Show threadKilgore TroutMar 8
It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.
Show threadaeggMar 9
You still did not answer my question. Pinephone has those issues with all Linux OSes, so do ports for many phones. Officially supported phones do not to my knowledge.
Show threadartyomMar 9
You asked 1 question, which I very clearly did answer. I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.
Show threadALoafOfBreadMar 7
It also isn’t as performant for the price, or so I’ve heard. They’re working on it, but it isn’t up to par with big name companies.
Show threadkrashmoMar 7
What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time but I haven’t come across anything my phone couldn’t run in over a decade. I haven’t had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?
Show threadMihiesMar 7
Like Android you mean?
Show threadartyomMar 7
What about it?
Show threadMihiesMar 8
Android is technically doing just fine.
Show threadartyomMar 8
I don’t understand what that’s supposed to mean.
Show threadMihiesMar 8
That it doesn’t have huge downsides.
Show threadartyomMar 8
Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won’t even be able to sideload software anymore without Google’s permission.
Show threadMihiesMar 9
You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don’t have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is.
Show threadartyomMar 9
I honestly have no idea what you’re on about. I didn’t say literally anything about politics.
Show threadMihiesMar 9
Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides…
Show threadartyomMar 9

Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem

Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY “Android is Linux” thing?

Show threadMihiesMar 9
I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn’t but linux has huge downsides you can’t even list. OK, got it.
Show threadartyomMar 9
Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says “Linux” while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation.
Show threadMihiesMar 9
I’m Jesus now?
Show threadSeductiveTortoiseMar 7
I think I bought one, but I’m not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.
Show threaddevfuuuMar 7
On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.
Show threadwoelkchenMar 8
There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.
Show threadwoelkchenMar 7

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

Show threadKilgore TroutMar 8

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software

I don’t see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

Show threadwoelkchenMar 8

I don’t see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

This article is about Fairphone with /e/OS, not some other OEM with a proprietary Android variant.

Show threadKilgore TroutMar 8
Then you are off-topic as well.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS. AOSP alone has very little “userland” still actively maintained.
Show threadwoelkchenMar 8

Then you are off-topic as well.

No. Pelespirit asked about Jolla which is mentioned in the article posts’s text body. I gave context for Jolla’s Android compatibility. It’s 100% on topic.

/e/OS is based on LineageOS.

And: “The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.”