Carlton GibsonMar 7

> Any discussion between the two of them that brings these incompatible sets of values into tension is going to end up in some kind of argument that neither side will concede. And who would expect them to? These are the very foundations of their personalities.

I’m enjoying this piece a lot. About two-thirds in. Still not sure how it’s going to finish.

https://www.scottsmitelli.com/articles/you-dont-have-to/

You don't have to if you don't want to.

"In the year 5555, your arms are hangin' limp at your sides, your legs got nothing to do, some machine doin' that for you." Zager and Evans sang these words in 1969. Now, thirty-five centuries ahead of schedule, it's never been easier to tell the world "I didn't care about this and I don't care about you."

Scott Smitelli
Show threadPaul McMillanMar 7
@carlton I stopped reading when it uncritically got to the water trope and boldly leaned in.
Show threadCarlton Gibson
@PaulM OK. They did say they’d lose people. I got to the end and liked the moral. (Not sure I know what to make of the environmental arguments, but they weren’t the point of this piece per se)
Mar 7 at 6:17pmWeb
Show threadPaul McMillanMar 7
@carlton eh. It's the "when you get to something you do know about" effect... nobody builds evaporative cooling AI datacenters, and the breathless articles about it generally all trace back to a single very badly done extrapolative cost estimate that was unreasonable in the first place.
Show threadCarlton GibsonMar 7
@PaulM good to know. (And yes, I get your feeling when you hit something you know is off.)
Show threadPaul McMillanMar 7
@carlton ok I finished reading it. The other problem with it is that it pretty squarely leans into the whole "what if this magically gets 10x more expensive when the VC dries up" which is also fairly obviously wrong. But the conclusion is fine.
Show threadCarlton GibsonMar 7
@PaulM I’m slightly worried about what happens when they stop subsidising tokens… but yeah, it was the general conclusion that I appreciated.
Show threadPaul McMillanMar 7
@carlton they're basically not subsidized. The all you can eat coding plans of course have the light users helping pay for the whales, but I'm damn sure AWS is not a charity, and Bezos is not somehow running bedrock at a loss to drum up business. So you can go look at your token costs directly.