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i just reckoned i have been online for 42 years. started using the internet at the University of Puerto Rico. compared to my friends, twas living in the future using Gopher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29

my digital footprint is older than most Millennials and Zoomers.

which protocol did you first use to pop your internet cherry?

#getOffMyLawn

Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia

@blogdiva there has been mention of bbses here -- started in on those in 1983-4, so i guess if we are counting that, it would be ~43 years. 😭

but what i would truly count as internet would have been around 1986-7 when i was using mts(!) and usenet, etc. i think i still have some email around from 1988 approx when i got onto proper un*x system.

I like that as a sub-question:

What’s the oldest email or post you still have privately? The oldest that can still be found on the searchable internet?

@Mumonkan @blogdiva

@clew @Mumonkan @blogdiva I have QBasic programs I wrote in the '90s, but the oldest email I still have saved is probably from 2001, exported from my MIT account.

playoff round question: what's the oldest program you wrote that you can still run?

finals: what's the oldest program you wrote that OTHER PEOPLE still run?

@bstacey @Mumonkan @blogdiva

@clew @bstacey @blogdiva
so i have a website that has been running for ~33 years (!) ... it is running code i wrote probably about 1997 or 98. and running ever since. (and yes of course it is in #perl )

@clew @Mumonkan @blogdiva With no modification, no emulator, etc... I came up with some LaTeX configuration code ~18 years ago that I still use as a default for some projects, and it's been handed off to other people since.

I have plain TeX that's years older than that, and it *would* produce a document without modification, but neither I nor anyone else has had a reason to touch it.

Among other things, I wrote my assignments for my poetry-workshop elective in TeX. There is no need to revisit poetry from college.

@clew @bstacey @blogdiva @tinmouth

extra credit points. the script i mention is for a project that has been running even longer. probably around 2000(?) i wrote a script to visualize activity on the project. it creates this chart every week.

so this chart has been cranked out for 25+ years. 😅 (apologies for the aspect ratio, but time is 1 dimensional, what can i say? haha)

@clew @bstacey @Mumonkan @blogdiva I still have a copy of my old MSDOS disk. The oldest program is a Turing machine simulator written in Borland Pascal from 1996 which I slightly modified in 2009 to be compilable in Free Pascal, the resulting executable still runs.

@clew @blogdiva some "trippy graphics" programs dated from 1993, I had put the .EXE files (34K, that was a good binary size) on my CMU page, just ran them in DOS emulation.

A bit more accessibly, 1997 perl5 to render PostScript from the .puz crossword format.
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~eli/warez/puz2ps

Other people running... pretty sure nothing.

@clew @blogdiva though someone made a nice web page, so could be somebody *has* run my .EXE since 1995

http://eyecandyarchive.com/2ynesthesia/

Eyecandy Archive - 2ynesthesia

2ynesthesia is the updated version of Eli Brandt's Mindwarp/Synesthesia IIx programs. It renders 16 spiraling meshworks with dancing comets and grids and supports audio input via a Creative Labs Soundblaster card.

@clew

Oldest program that can still run: A natural language understanding system that maps English sentences to an integrated semantic graph, which can then answer questions about what it's been told, connecting the dots between different pieces of information. It's about 20 years old now.

Oldest program that other people still run: An implementation of the XCS algorithm, which uses genetic algorithms and reinforcement learning to find the minimal set of rules that map from inputs to outputs reliably in the data set. It's a little over a decade old now. Unlike the NLU system, this one is open source:

https://github.com/hosford42/xcs

@bstacey @Mumonkan @blogdiva

@clew @bstacey @Mumonkan @blogdiva

I have some ultra-crudgy C programs I wrote in 1998 or 1999 to do some astronomy calculations. Somehow they managed to survive multiple disk moves without me noticing them until recently.

My personal web site has some PHP code (so, sort of “run by other people”) with origins in the early-mid-00s, though most of that has been at least partially rewritten at least once.

@clew @Mumonkan @blogdiva A colleague of mine actually convinced Cambridge University Press to publish an edited collection of his '90s emails, because he corresponded with everybody in the early days of quantum information theory and they provide a record of the informal side of science:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/coming-of-age-with-quantum-information/F07402B5AEBD38D862BE4D9EAB2E2BFE
Coming of Age With Quantum Information

Cambridge Core - Quantum Physics, Quantum Information and Quantum Computation - Coming of Age With Quantum Information

Cambridge Core
@clew @blogdiva
ok, this is the oldest email i could find.
the oldest i could find me searchable "on the internet" is a post to usenet, alt.cyberpunk (ha!) from nov 1991 😁
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