10% of Firefox crashes are caused by bitflips

https://feddit.org/post/26711761

10% of Firefox crashes are caused by bitflips - feddit.org

Lemmy

Guess Linus was right again to only use ECC RAM.

Let’s spend a ton of extra money minimizing edge case crashing in a browser!!!

🙄

I always love it when folks who don’t actually know what they’re talking about, comment like they do…

It’s not just the browser. This example is the browser, but it’s your entire system stability that is affected by random bit flips.

Blah blah blah blah. Explain to me, in in concrete terms how this affects the average consumer. 

Jackass 🙄, you can’t.

There’s a jump instruction by an address read from RAM, a bit flip occurred so a condition “if friend greet else kill” worked as “if friend rape else kill”. Absolutely anything can happen, that wasn’t determined by program design flaws and errors. A digital computer is a deterministic system (sometimes there are intentional non-deterministic elements like analog-based RNGs), this is non-deterministic random changes of the state.

In concrete terms - things break without reason. A perfect program with no bugs, if such exists, will do random wrong things if bit flips occur. Clear enough?

Blah blah blah, made up use cases.
I don’t want to use the M-word or the T-word, but those “made up use cases” constitute every computer program in existence.
Sorry let me correct. Use cases that normal people give two fucks about.
Each and every one of them, moron. Everything you do on a computer every moment.

Guy, you can’t even separate your metal tracks on what people care about vs  what is possible.

Point to me where you live in the spectrum.

People care about what they care about breaking in their hands and exploding into their faces.

ASD and BAD, probably also ADHD.

People also love to assume what they keep on their hard drives and memory sticks is somehow preserved over time and machine time. Bitflips and other physical effects onto your imagined perfect machine are why it’s not, and is as good or worse as what’s written on paper. A cat decides to piss onto your grandpa’s diary and there’s no more diary. Or humidity slowly eats it. With computers it’s even faster.

Oh, now we’re launching into hard drive degregation because firefox crashing isn’t actually enough to send normies into a rage? 

Nobody but nerds optimizing for use cases for the. 01%.

I tagged you as “whiny edge case bitch” because it seems like all you do complain about edge cases on tech posts. I only checked the past few days of comments and it seems like a common theme, but feel free to let me know if it’s actually an edge case.