hylobatesMar 7

Gas shortages, you say?

https://jlai.lu/post/34164989

Show threadOwOarchist

Eh, it will still affect you somewhat, just less directly.

You can still go to the grocery store just fine … but the truck that brought deliveries to the grocery store so you could buy them ran on diesel, as did the truck that delivered the food from the packing plant to the distribution center. As did the truck that delivered the food from the farm to the packing plant. As did all the tractors and other heavy equipment used on that farm. And if they all have to pay more for fuel, your groceries are going to get more expensive. If shortages get so bad that they can’t even get fuel, then you might be seeing a lot of empty shelves at the grocery store.

It’s nice to have personal independence from fossil fuels, but it’s an unfortunate fact that our society and economy as a whole are still very dependent upon fossil fuels.

Mar 7 at 8:24amWeb
Show threadiktMar 7

and then they should be saying, can we get electric trucks so we can avoid this? and the answer is:

The result is a growing array of models available today, from last-mile city trucks to powerful heavy-duty prime movers.

…com.au/…/electric-truck-guide-whats-available-in…

Volvo receives order for 30 electric trucks in Australia and announces production start of electric trucks

volvotrucks.com/…/volvo-receives-order-for-30-ele…

looks like a yes to me

2025 electric truck guide: What’s available in Australia - trucksales.com.au

Australia’s electric truck market is gaining momentum, with options now spanning from last-mile city trucks to heavy-duty prime movers

trucksales.com.au
Show threadMicromotMar 7
And the big routes are and can mostly be done by rail, which is very efficient and can be electrified easier than trucks
Show threadevenglowMar 7
Don’t forget. Solar and batteries are the cheapest way to make energy.
Show threadSkyeStarfallMar 7
Rally brings the point home just how vulnerable it makes our societies to be so strongly dependent on fossil fuels
Show threadmrgoosmoosMar 7
It’s better to own the libs than to have resource security, though.
Show thread☂️-Mar 9
or so strongly dependent on land thousands of kilometers away. cities themselves are a bit precarious if you think about it
Show threadboolyMar 7

Yes, but the economies of scale of cargo transport generally mean that the percentage of the total cost attributable to fuel cost is usually pretty small.

Take bananas, for example. If they cost $0.70 per pound at the store, how much fuel could have been used getting a pound of bananas from the plantation to the port, shipped from that port to a port in the United States, then from that port to a distribution center, then to the store? So what would doubling the price of fuel do for the price of bananas?

With more expensive items, shipping (and therefore fuel) is an even lower percentage of the total input costs.

The price of goods will go up with the price of fuel, but not as much as a lot of people seem to assume.