SundrayPatients say measles 'worse than expected' as Utah hits 350+ infections, doctors say
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ScrubblesYou see, the reason you didn’t know was because we had eradicated it before you morons decided you were smarter than the entire science and medical community because you watched some youtube videos
Algorithmic engagement prioritized this shit over established medical science. Big Tech undermined all the pillars of society. What a fucking mess.
dohpaz42Capitalism. Capitalism caused this. Big Tech is just a vessel that is used by capitalists to further their agenda.
GreenBeardBig Tech is a force multiplier. It amplifies the scale and scope of the damage. To make an analogy, it’s like replacing muskets with machine guns. Capitalism was headed this direction long before tech came along, but with tools like these in their pocket, the scale of the disinformation went from “a serious problem” to “an existential crisis”, and the tools we have to resist it are simply incapable of holding the line against the firehose of BS.
incapable of holding the line against the fire hose of BS
Also known as Brandolini’s law
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.[1][2]
At the end of the day those people chose to believe some random blog over medical journals, university publications, and the advice of doctors. There is no other word for that than stupidity, algorithms or no.
No matter the cause or effect, stupidity is the root of the problem. You can’t exploit a weakness that doesn’t exist.
potoooooooo ✅️Unfortunately, I was reading somewhere recently (I think it might have been a t-shirt?) that, “you can’t fix stupid.”
MinnesotaGoddami love it when people say “i’m too smart for propaganda to work on me” because all i have to do is find out their rough location to find what propaganda they’ve been falling for.
UnderpantsWeevilwe had eradicated it
Clearly we hadn’t.
We horded the vaccine domestically, patented efficient methods for manufacturer and distribution, and curtailed it’s use in states we considered too poor or too evil.
Some of the highest rates of measles today can be found in Yemen, a country we’ve been bombing since the early '10s.
We didn’t exterminate the disease. We incubated it. And now we’re reaping what we’ve sown.
we also curtail other vaccines too, like HPV limited to women MOSTLY unless some how you can convince your doc/insurance to approve it, Meningicoccal menigitis vaccine, we know majority isnt “susceptible” enough to be eligble but still.
There’s also the shingles vaccine, which (at least, in the US) is typically reserved for those 50+. I could understand if they limited the vaccine for those young enough to have been immunized against chicken pox. However, that vaccine wasn’t released here until 1995, well after many of us (particularly Millennials and younger Gen X) already caught the disease. This leaves those of us under 50 in a vulnerable gap, where we’re susceptible to shingles, but not allowed to be vaccinated against it. Of course it’s especially dangerous for older folks, but that doesn’t mean shingles won’t kick the ass of an otherwise healthy 35 year old.
I personally fall into this gap, and I’m pretty pissed about it. I know people younger than me who’ve already experienced shingles, and it’s frankly terrifying.
It was taught in our schools, along with the black plague and others.
I once had a neighbor tell me they “didn’t agree with liberal views on vaccines.”
You know, like germs give a flying fuck about your political views.
The irony? This person is a nurse.
I worked in nursing for a while
I worked with a few excellent people, many average people, and a horrifyingly large number of absolute fucking halfwits
That’s my experience with the medical field as well. It breaks my heart, I used to trust doctors, but after some interesting experiences I am now convinced it’s all a minstrel show held together with bailing wire.
I think it helps that I’m lucky enough to live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica
I worked in a nursing home during Covid, including when the vaccine came out and it became mandatory for employees. Despite going through school to become nurses or aides, as well as witnessing all the horrors of Covid with their own eyes, some people chose to quit instead of get the vaccine.
I had no words, and I still have no words.
I have several words
Such as “fucking morons” and “useless wastes of oxygen”
Nurses are either brilliant, wonderful, helpful people, joe-schmoe’s looking to make a buck, or radical traditionalist women who think that it’s ok to be a nurse because it’s women’s work.
Should be a law if you don’t trust science to get vaccinated, you can’t use hospital resources when you’re sick. Do your research and figure it out.
The idiots will cull themselves
They’ll do that either way.
I honestly believe that this will happen over a long period of time. As more diseases and pandemics come back, the people who don’t get vaccinated will die in larger numbers, leading to natural selection against stupidity. Unfortunately it will also take out the vulnerable.
ive seen more infections circulating around ever since Mr brainworms removed any vaccine mandates, or defunded vaccine research. now we also see people resisting getting vaccines in general now too.
Sounds great in theory, absolutely rancid in practice. It would lead to a massive increase in infections in people who actually did get vaccinated or who are otherwise immunocompromised.
Also in this case it would just punish those poor children even more for the stupidity of their parents.
How about we take in the kids, and file charges of child neglect on the parents?
Or planes or cars or computers, etc, etc.
explodicleDo no harm != help everyone all the time
It means if someone needs healing you heal them, end of story. Choosing to not help is doing harm.
This circle of hate is sad and worrying. The solution to this measles problem is more education and leaders that really care about their population, not stupid campism. What is gained by not treating the stupid fucks who refuse the vaccine because they think they know better? They will become a contagion vector and die in their conviction, and you get to feel smug I guess. Be the better person, don’t stoop to their level.
fratermusAntivaxxers should love measles because there’s a chance it can completely wipe out your immune system which is like a human factory reset.
Record it and make it a PSA. “The more you know”
Imagine a parallel universe where there’s enough trust in a government that compels Google to algorithmically push that PSA to every user who has been consuming antivax content. We could still have it all if we take back the helm.
I do wonder how much that would cost. Just 5 seconds of them going “holy shit it hurts so bad. Don’t let them fool you.” Make it a targeted ad.
I’m already pro-vax, but I started to watch a video of a baby with pertussis (whooping cough) and I had to turn it off almost immediately because it was so viscerally tragic
Yeah, assholes like Musk and RFK wanting people to get this are some evil motherfuckers. Doubly so because they’re all vaxxed or have the money to make sure it’s just an inconvenience if THEY get it - pretty sure if health care was equal and they had to wait in line and suffer like “the poors” this shit would cease. I’ve heard that this is some white supremacist crap, “ stronger genes will prevail” and thrive and that kind of bullshit. And each time, I just wonder what kind of monsters exist that want to subject anybody to this shit. It ‘s depressing as hell. Go vote in the primaries and this fall.
rfk jr has always been anti-vaxxers like for decades. hes a useful tool for other anti-vaxxer midwesterners out there to gather voter support.
its one of the unusual infections that is more severe in children, one other one is RSV.
Measles is worse than the actual illness, which bad and kills. It resets the immune system so the immunity that is built up over a lifetime is lost. Definitely don’t get it as an adult.
Would pay to read a news journal that included “poll of how much we expected” and “tally of results” included in the footnotes for any of these headlines
Boomer Humor DoomergodGets almost like we invented a vaccine for a reason.
No shit.
Darwin fish > Jesus fish again.
grimpy"Most people survive measles, though in some cases, complications may occur. About 1 in 4 individuals will be hospitalized and 1–2 in 1,000 will die. Complications are more likely in children under age 5, adults over age 20, and pregnant people.Pneumonia is the most common and accounts for 56–86% of measles-related deaths.
“Possible consequences of measles virus infection include laryngotracheobronchitis, sensorineural hearing loss, and—in about 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 300,000 cases—panencephalitis, which is usually fatal. Acute measles encephalitis is another serious risk of measles virus infection. It typically occurs two days to one week after the measles rash breaks out and begins with very high fever, severe headache, convulsions and altered mentation. A person with measles encephalitis may become comatose, and death or brain injury may occur.
“For people having had measles, it is rare to ever have a symptomatic reinfection.
“The measles virus can deplete previously acquired immune memory by killing cells that make antibodies, and thus weakens the immune system, which can cause deaths from other diseases. Suppression of the immune system by measles lasts about two years and has been epidemiologically implicated in up to 90% of childhood deaths in third world countries, and historically may have caused rather more deaths in the United States, the UK and Denmark than were directly caused by measles. Although the measles vaccine contains an attenuated strain, it does not deplete immune memory.”
—Wikipedia
Your first paragraph has some repeated sentences