evacideMar 5
If you pay Proton Mail for a service, they may hand over the payment data in response to a court order: https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester

A court record reviewed by 404 Media shows privacy-focused email provider Proton Mail handed over payment data related to a Stop Cop City email account to the Swiss government, which handed it to the FBI.

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Show threadcliffleMar 5
@evacide I've been following the articles on this, and was curious -- you would know this better than I -- does it sound like they were in a position where they had a legal alternative?
Show threadevacideMar 5
@cliffle This is exactly what they have already said they would do, but it is very common for me to encounter people who use Proton Mail who do not expect this.
Show threadmaya_b 🇨🇦Mar 5

@evacide @cliffle

and with owners in the US, there's even more legal jeopardy potential. where the servers are located is less relevant than who owns them.

contrast that with Tuta, sure it's EU owned but you have to go through more layers to get to account details, and not as easily strong-armed.

though the French MS email saga from a while back makes it all muddier. French authorities will comply with requests made through the proper channels, a US judge said she didn't have to and demanded compliance - putting MS-France in non-compliance with the US court order, or non-compliance with French law.

Show threadRobotMar 6
@maya_b @evacide @cliffle didn't tuta get named by canadian police in a lawsuit as honeypot
Show threadBro
@robot @maya_b @evacide @cliffle have a source on that?
Mar 6 at 5:44pmWeb