lacaio š§š·š“āā ļøšøš“NVIDIA could enter the desktop CPU market with performance equal to AMD and Intel
pharDonāt worry. It will only be used for ai data centers.
Probably, of you throw enpugh cache at it. š
breadsmasherclock speed of 4GHz, which is far below AMD and Intelās 5GHz.
phrasing is odd. 25% lower clock speed isnt āfar belowā
but also fuck nvidia
I donāt think it should even be comparable between totally different architectures.
Iām hopeful ARM will follow more the licensing path than the going full Android path. I think stronger ARM computers, built at the ISA level by any company are also stronger RISCV computers. Builders like Rockchip (China) show that ARM and RISCV computers will bring alternatives to people, possibly with smaller fabs or on demand.
I canāt believe people still look at Hz and think itās a sole metric that can be used for performance.
Do you think they look at the 2005 Pentium 4ās 3.8GHz and assume itās only slightly worse than what Nvidia will put on the market?
BoxOfFeetYeah, weāve been through this exact same game with multiple iterations of Intel and AMD chips. When AMD first started doing consumer CPUs they badged them according to their equivalent Intel clock speed because one to one comparisons were misleading.
Whatās the L1 and L2 cache? What are the bus speeds? How many cores and how are they architectured? Multi-threading? How many steps is the instruction cycle? There are so many factors beyond just clock speed that play into real world performance.
Sturgist25% lower clock speed isnt āfar belowā
AHEM! AKTCHEWALEEā¦ itās 20% which is even less qualified to be āfar belowā the other two.
Thanks! Thats more accurate
Do I want another option in the desktop CPU space? YES
Do I want that option to be Nvidia? NOPE
SemperverusIām looking forward to the MilkV chipsets that are RISC V architecture. They have like a microATX board that just takes regular computer components and has functioning graphics drivers for AMD. Nothing is optimized for it but its a 64 core CPU if I recall correctly, and its ridiculously low wattage for what it does.
Åan ā¢ šĘØɤDitto. RISCV will catch up, eventually, and itāll be a Chinese company which does it. Most of Ć¾e RISCV solutions are Chinese silicon.
ageedizzleWhatās wrong with Nvidia? Genuine question
Probably them investing mostly in AI hardware nowadays (not sure what %) is the reason
they are recently destroying the desktop PC market by selling at overinflated prices, and by being the manufacturer that ends up using all the memory components thatās been removed from the manufacturers of the PC market.
but for a very long time before that, they were making very shitty, buggy, unstable drivers for linux. we might just get to be taught that CPUs also need drivers, so far that just wasnāt a problem because they was just working fine.
Are they hedging against AI collapsing? Not sure I see the motivation.
I think thatās 100% what this is, and itās a very smart play if thatās the case. Intel are reeling from some significant setbacks, while Nvidia is swimming in cash. Thereās never been a better time for them to make a play for the desktop CPU space.
And theyāve got absolutely no illusions about whatās happening with AI. Theyāre the ones who are literally paying AI companies to buy their chips. They know the space is collapsing. But as the guys selling the picks and shovels, they can ride out that collapse if theyāre smart.
End of the day, if what we get out of this is a new, serious competitor in the CPU space, thatāll at least be some kind of win. With Nvidiaās money and expertise they could really force Intel to get their shit together. AMD chasing their heels is the only thatās ever kept them from completely going to shit, but more competition is even better. With all three major companies playing in both the CPU and GPU spaces, that could be really good for consumers.
empireOfLove2Both that and vertical integration. They can capture even more of the market by creating all in one Nvidia-only machines that you have to buy the whole rig to use their accelerators
Nvidia wants to be the equal to Intel and AMD. They want to be the 3rd major hardware house.
In ~2009, Intel didnāt renew a contract which allowed Nvidia to produce chipsets for Intel processors, and since then Nvidia has wanted a CPU of their own to keep from getting locked out again.
Nvidia tried to buy Arm when SoftBank was trying to sell, but that got scuttled. They had Tegra in the past which was a phone processor and successful in the Nintendo Switch. They canāt buy Intel because of poison pills in the x86 licensing between AMD and Intel which would kick in.
BlackmistMaybe they should start making RAM /s
if they donāt tank on AI first.
I donāt think Iāll ever purchase anything made by NVIDIA
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MarshezezzFuck that company
vext01Meh, Iām waiting for AMDās RDNA 5 to be released in 2027 and am hoping for some decent SoCs that are at least comparable to todayās RTX 5080, except without artificially limited VRAM. The current AI Max SoCs are pretty decent, but the RDNA 5 RTX cores are going to be what really makes it worthwhile for me personally, since I do a lot of Blender rendering and gaming.
DevolutionItās the monopoly man announcing that Nvidia is effectively a monopoly.
If it ever becomes the standard desktop processor, theyāll pull the rug like they have with graphics processors and push everything to AI datacenters.
Hard pass
This is more about the Arm X925 core than about Nvidia. The X925 is a new superscalar ARM core thatās the first one competitive with current x64 at single threaded compute.
Apple M-series are ARM64. Are they not competitive?
They get fairly close from what I understand. But while they are more power efficient, theyāre still behind in pure speed. The X925 goes for speed at the cost of power, at least per this:
mlgI am literally just waiting for China to catch up and knock over all 3 of these TSMC suckers.
I donāt care if they throw a 2000% tarrif on it, I will figure out a way to bypass it so I can enjoy pre inflation PC prices again when high end GPUs were going for $300, SSDs became so cheap that the HDD market actually started falling behind, and you could chuck RAM sticks around like spare change.
harkI will not buy another nvidia retail product again. Could make an exception for a second hand shield from an earlier generation, but nvidia is dead to me. AMD is my new best friend.
AMD is still trying to get in on the AI cash pile. The only thing they have going for them is pretty solid Linux support. I still pick them over nvidia and intel, they just arenāt much better than the others when it comes to āconsumer firstā ideologies
BeatTakeshiIām not buying this news, and if Iām wrong Iām not buying the product. Fuck Nvidia