Remember NFTs
Remember NFTs
Yeah, but do paintings typically lose almost all of their value? I thought the idea was that the value should either stay the same or go up.
Either way, in this case, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
The point here is say you are in business with X party but it’s illegal. X party can buy an nft worth nothing or generate one. You buy the NFT for the amount of your bill with X party. You’ve now technically not paid them for whatever illegal thing, instead you bought an nft from them. You could also break this down into multiple NFTs, buying 100 $100 NFTs from various “owners” that don’t link back to X party through shell companies, and you’ve now paid them $10,000 “for pictures of chimps”.
NFTs only exist for money laundering and illicit transfers. Once they’ve been transferred their value no longer matters, the business has been done.
NFTs only exist for money laundering and illicit transfers
And at least to some degree scamming people even if that’s not the main focus. I know a few people that got full on scammed by it
Thank you! Now for the first time, i finally see the slightest sense in NFTs. I really didn’t get it from the start. I heard various explanations and they never made any sense to me. Left me confused every time until now.
Its just a mask for a deal in the background. Ok now i get it.
Yep.
My buddy once went to a farmer’s market where they weren’t allowed to sell beer, but they were allowed to give it away. So he did the oldest trick in the book: scooped up a bunch of rocks in a box, put up a sign that said “Rocks $5,” and “Free beer with purchase of rock.”
NFTs are just the rock.
For Logan Paul, yes, he wanted it to go up.
But if this painting was laundering at work, the important part is that the seller can point to this transaction as “real”. The IRS or the FBI might be looking into his sudden gains of half a million dollars, but when they do, they find that he sold Logan Paul half a million dollars of art.
The NFT part makes it incredibly easy to generate said art. Before NFTs, rich people would mark up paintings, and those had to go up in value, because they would buy them at 100,000$ and sell them for 200,000$, so the government would see 100,000$ of profit, but the next guy with the painting, he’d have to sell it for 300,000, claiming 100,000$ in profit, and the next guy, 400,000$, you get the idea.
NFTs can lose value in a way real art isnt allowed to because anyone can claim that’s the price, and after the sale, they can be discarded as trash, essentially. New ones can be made in bulk for no effort, and its alright to sell 1000 NFTs at 100$ each, because you can just keep making them and “selling” them and no one has to care about their value in the same way because they’re mass producible without that crashing the market.
I don’t think that’s actually all that important. It’s fundamental to an understanding of NFTs, but not their role in any sort of money-laundering, since you can also just make NFTs using some AI-generated art or make 5000 NFT’s from one low-effort art you do own.
All money laundering needs is the non-fungible part, which is easy to do, just stamp the corner with a limited-edition numbering mark and the 500 fungible digital tokens of a single art become 500 nonfungible tokens.
I was thinking that both values are very close to zero, but that would mean they use a third currency as intermediate, and as I remember that’s not how things work.
So in conclusion my comment needs some more work.
That doesn’t help that he actually paid $635,000 for it and now it’s worthless.
It’s as if he took half a million dollars and just set it on fire. Being able to claim a loss on his taxes, if that’s allowed (which I’m pretty sure it isn’t), doesn’t really help with that.
Or aliens descended from space and messed with everybody’s minds so we all think that he’s a real person.
C’mon, stick to reality.
I don’t give a fuck about this guy, but I know a fucking grifter when I see a grifter, and I’ve learned not to give them the benefit of assuming that their actions are done randomly or stupidly.
Now, if you want to go deep into a thread to claim that a renowned crypto scammer isn’t running a crypto scam, you’re free to do so, but that sounds like a fucking agenda to me.
I know a fucking grifter when I see a grifter
Sure, I agree. That doesn’t mean that he always wins when he tries to grift. There’s a well known expression “you can’t con an honest man”. I’m sure that he thought he was getting the better end of the deal. But, clearly he didn’t.
You don’t have to pretend he’s some omnipotent super-being who never gets scammed.
If you want to claim that Logan Paul is a genius who never gets caught in one of his own attempted scams, go for it, but… I mean… look at the guy.
I don’t live in the US. Do people really wear these hats out in public.
And if so, what the hell is everyone else’s excuse for allowing them to feel safe doing so?
Yes. Conservatives, specifically the alt-right, need ways to identify each other in public so that they can “feel included”.
And the reason they feel safe is that liberals and progressives are largely non-violent.