RE: https://mastodon.social/@404mediaco/116178581339270397

Proton is a honey pot. If you are using it as an activist you should think twice about what its actually providing you.

heres the full article behind the paywall https://archive.ph/gx6U4 (yes I know archive.today has some serious issues too, but I don't have a better source to unpaywall links yet)

@liaizon I think in this case every email provider would need to comply to local laws and give the same data, right? Because they can't operate with credit card without read access to this data.

I remember Mullvad had nice alternative payment options, but I can't see how a credit card payment would be different there for example, but I don't know if i'm missing something

@hipgnose they advertise themselves as a Security and Privacy product to people who then think it is SAFE for them to give personal data to Proton cause they are a "privacy respecting" email provider. There is ways to make money without collecting peoples credit card info and assigning it to the registered account. This is why projects like https://njal.la exist
Njalla — Worlds most notorious privacy provider for domains, VPS' and VPNs.

Njalla — Considered the worlds most notorious &quote;Privacy as a Service&quote; provider for domains, VPS' and VPNs.

@liaizon @hipgnose and they do provide cash and crypto payment options.
They never claimed to provide anonymity
https://proton.me/blog/how-to-send-an-anonymous-email
How to send an anonymous email | Proton

Learn how to send an email as anonymously as possible using Proton Mail, SimpleLogin, and a VPN or Tor.

Proton
@shadowwwind @hipgnose i'm sorry but thats bullshit, they claim they are the most trusted secure email provider and go on and on about how much you can trust them https://proton.me/mail/security this says absolutely nothing about what they do with your credit card data after they trick you into signing up for a pro account. if they are advertising themselves as trusted by journalists and they they proudly hand over personal data about their users to the feds they are predatory...
How Safe is Proton Mail? Security Features Explained | Proton

Proton Mail provides security features that no other secure email service has, including end-to-end email encryption, self-destructing messages and more.

Proton
@shadowwwind @hipgnose in this page they don't list any alternative payment options, only ones that have KYC
@liaizon @hipgnose agreed, that they don't surface it well sucks ass