brachiosaurusAre iranian children worth less than american children?
The government doesn’t care about children anywhere. They’re a political tool when talked about in the us, a method to get whatever legislation passed that they want that we’d otherwise oppose. “It’s for the children” is never about the children.
When we bomb children in other countries, the government just doesn’t care at all and will just make up any excuses as to why it’s acceptable.
The US government doesn’t care about children anywhere. From Sandy Hook to Gaza to Tehran.
Certain members of it care too much, way too much.
Vast majority.
What you’re saying isn’t incorrect but this isn’t a question. You’re just soapboxing.
I think it’s a legit question, when there’s a tragedy involving kids it’s always a big deal, politicians yells about it and media coverage goes on for weeks. Personally i know there is no difference between children but i’m genuinely puzzled about what is the answer according to government and media logic.
No reasonable person would say there is a difference. Media/government will chalk these kids up to civilian casualties that happen in any war. I hate it, I hate it happened, I hate the excuse I literally just gave, I hate that we are in a war, I hate that we do shitty things overseas, I hate that we do shitty things domestically, I hate that its a discussion. I still don’t think you’re asking a genuine question.
see, i find that govts are evil almost everywhere, they do not have the interests of the common people, and children in their mind. You definitely should not care less about the children and people of Iran just because their Govt is oppressive, if you do so, then, logically you should just not care about children almost anywhere, as govts tend to be evil almost everywhere. but we must educate ourselves about the truth, and do our best to propagate it. The truth is that America is a viciously dangerous imperialist nation built on the blood of thousands, and thousands of innocent peoples all over the world, from Cuba to Iran, from Cambodia to Gaza. you must condemn oppression everywhere in the world, and stand, and sympathise with the oppressed peoples of the world.
Dessalines“Iran is oppressive. The media from the country bombing them told me so”
hey, I am not a liberal, if by removing my comment, you thought that, and you have sorta dampened my spirits by removing it. that’s fine. I am fully with Iran against this Imperialist war that is being waged against them. but putting the war aside looking at Iran 3 years back, would you say that the Iranian goverment is above criticism, and that their nation has no flaws in the eyes of a Marxist? that they are the sorta nation that the world of progressive leftists, and their struggle should strive towards?
It’s more about what is not being said: more than 150 iranians kids recently died in a bombing and it was on the news for only two days, no minutes of silence or football teams wearing a badge for the victims, no politicians condemning what happened and sending wishes to the families involved.
mudkipThat would be fair if the USA government or MAGA peeps showed any care for USA children.
Europe is closer to Iran than America
Geographically yes, but I was mostly referring social and ideological distance tend to be even more important that geography, especially in modern times.
Goal post moving doesn’t sound too rigid now does it? Human nature seems to be awfully flexible in the right hands
Saying “people consider them to be closer to those they talk to the most” isn’t moving the goalposts.
No, you said that now, in modern times, that means ideological closeness, not merely geographical. Somehow, human nature seems to have shifted. If it can shift like so in the transition to modern times, I don’t suppose this appeal yo human nature could also shift in an imagined future. That it is not such an immutable quality - that even you have conceded as such by your own reply.
It’s estimated that 30-40 children died on Oct 7th. Consider the reaction most (white) Americans had to that event to the 165 schoolchildren killed in Minab recently. Neither Israel nor Iran are meaningfully “closer” to Americans than the other.
Israelis are painted white by US media, Iranians are painted brown.
BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]Here’s a very simple graph that breaks it down:
DJ PutlerThe US market would price them in the low thousands iirc, significantly below their disappeared white girls. Unsure about native americans. What are you going to do about it?
Glenn and Eva Dubin bought a child #glennandevadubinboughtachild #bindersfullofwomen #maralago
Is this real?
The true role of government (i.e. power) is to perpetuate itself. Regardless of what ideology it dresses itself with, that is its goal and function. Not to serve the people it governs, not to protect them, not to further their wellbeing, health, and happiness etc. This applies to all governments/governing systems, though there is a spectrum of heavy handedness upon which they exist.
I’m not saying that’s how it should be and I’m sure there’s an exception or two out there. There are systems that are more permissive/open and subjectively more optimal to live under (I wish I lived under a better one) but the same still applies. Benefits/rights for the public typically need to be forced from the system or the benefit/right itself must somehow ultimately serve and benefit the overall system more and/or aid in its perpetuation.
So, the answer is, you’re supposed to care about whatever your heart cares about because none of the people in power give a single shit about the children or any of the people they govern. The Iranian government does not care, the US government does not care, the Israeli government does not care, none of the European governments care etc. Giving a fuck about the faceless masses is not their function. Maintaining and increasing their power, control, and wealth is.
I think you already have the answer, and know everyone else here agrees with you.
Always has been, see Orientalism by Edward Said: newcriterion.com/…/edward-saids-ldquoorientalismr…
No, they’re worth less than Jews.