Joseph CoxMar 5
New from 404 Media: Proton Mail, the privacy-focused email service, gave authorities data that let the FBI unmask an anonymous 'Stop Cop City' protester. It was payment data linked to the anonymous email account. From that, FBI ID'd them, then tracked their movements https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester

A court record reviewed by 404 Media shows privacy-focused email provider Proton Mail handed over payment data related to a Stop Cop City email account to the Swiss government, which handed it to the FBI.

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Show threadAdrian Sanabria

@josephcox anyone know a good alternative for Proton? Their products are so good, it’s painful seeing them cave to this sort of stuff.

Or is this already the best option, and the reality is just that the best option also sucks for reasons?

Mar 5 at 8:46pmWeb
Show threadJames ZimmermanMar 5
@sawaba @josephcox
Tuta is competitive with Proton. Hosted in Germany.
Not sure if it would have helped in this situation.
Show threadDan PatchMar 5
@sawaba @josephcox tuta.com
Show threadxrvsMar 6
@sawaba @josephcox i’d say if you’re organizing you should avoid emails altogether
Show threadTudbuTMar 6

@sawaba @josephcox

for communication: rigid identity separation and using @delta

for the rest: your best bet is not using cloud stuff at all and keeping an encrypted usb stick with you instead. if you need cloud separate it entirely from any potentially criminal or disliked activity

Show threaddmi 💽 Mar 6
@tudbut @josephcox @sawaba they asked for an alternative e-mail provider (among other things). you gave them a chat application that works on top of email. i don’t think that’s especially helpful
Show threadTudbuTMar 6

@domi @josephcox @sawaba

i specifically said “for communication”; i know this is not email.

Show threadTudbuTMar 6
@domi @josephcox @sawaba and in terms of anonymous email, it might actually be more safe to create a burner email with some free provider, because that way they dont have your payment data
Show threadAdrian SanabriaMar 6
@tudbut @domi @josephcox @tudbut I found it helpful, thanks for sharing! Never heard of Delta, going to check it out
Show threadEveyPNMar 6
@sawaba Plenty of alternatives, proton is mostly just good with the marketing, but depends a bit on your requirements. Mailbox.org, soverin.com etc and a bunch of others also exist.
Show threadEveyPNMar 6
@sawaba But in the end any provider will comply with a court order if that is legally binding. So having a provider that allows you to prepay in cash or other methods is probally the most effective option.
Show threadAdrian SanabriaMar 6
@evey these alternatives also have encrypted inboxes?
Show threadEveyPNMar 6
@sawaba afaik mailbox does support (or did) that
Show threadnanasMar 6
@sawaba @josephcox

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