Could the United States lose the war in Iran? Why one professor thinks it will happen

https://lemmy.world/post/43876153

Could the United States lose the war in Iran? Why one professor thinks it will happen - Lemmy.World

Considering his first two predictions, this prediction is more than a little concerning.

In most war, both sides end-up loosing. US couldn’t win neither in Iraq nor in Afghanistan. Unless they decide to win whatever it takes, and change their brute force strategy, they may also loose that one
This will almost certainly be a big “L” for the environment, which means that we all lose.
I mean war is terrible for carbon but also increased price of oil and gas can make renewable more economically favorable. Republicans and conservatives continue trying to force oil and gas so we’ll see what happens.
In another post it was helpfully pointed out that the professor in question also believes in the illuminati and other secret cabals controlling society. Take that as you will.

Well, there was/is a now known secret cabal of child sex trafficking by the worlds richest people and various heads of state.

Does that count?

It wasn’t that secret though was it? People knew about it, they just didn’t do anything about it.
Maybe the Illuminati gave him the information!

Problem: You can’t lose a war you have no definition for winning.

So in the end, the US literally can’t win or lose the war, all they can do is simply choose to end it.

What is the end goal? What does winning the war look like? 🤷 Yeah, me either. But if you don’t define it, you can’t lose it either.

I love how there’s a ton of comments and upvotes here, yet OP’s article is paywalled behind a subscription. Did anyone here actually read it?

It reminds me of a post I just saw elsewhere, with total nonsense in the link. Since it was already upvoted, the moderater left it up as an experiment: it got a boatload of upvotes and comments. No one cared, even with someone pointing this out in a comment. It was just a bunch of the same comments affirming what they already believed.

…That about sums up the internet for me now. People don’t actually care where information came from; they just want to drive by, then keep scrolling :(

No.

They are just a bunch of anti-USA types who just think this conflict is evidence of the collapse of America, or something. And they are eager cheering on the supposed downfall, and begging for any narrative or infopoint that makes america look bad.

Bombing alone has never worked as a means of forcing regime change. So Trump will either have to succeed at this for the first time in history, back down (seems unlikely at this point) or put boots on the ground (for which he has not manufactured consent).I guess he could also just die on the shitter and make it the next guys problem. There are many avenues for the US to lose here.

No

The article was perfectly readable to me but sure cope harder.

He’ll back down like he always backs down. He doesn’t have the patience to be a true warlord, he’s the laziest man alive, he gets bored of things even when he’s not the one doing the work.
No needs a narrative to make America look bad. The Americans do it to themselves.

I skipped the paywall by opening the page in my browser’s article mode. Strips out most CSS and JS popups.

I have a hard time believing every claim in this piece, since the prof makes a claim that the US economy is a ponzi scheme. I think that words matter, and “ponzi scheme” is a very specific thing, which I do no believe accurately describes banking or wall street. I notice that grifters and crypto-bros are quick to describe the traditional economy as a ponzi in order to make their own scam look better in comparison. Example.

That’s not to say that the capitalist economic system is fair, good for the world, or sustainable. Whether this is a mistake or an intentional mischaracterization, it makes me question the conclusions drawn.

The Context 161: 🔝 Donald Trump Jr. proclaims he was "at the top of the Ponzi scheme"

Donald Trump Jr., co-founder of World Liberty Financial, has claimed that he was "at the top of the Ponzi scheme that was banking."

Protos
Is the article pay walled? I can read it in its entirety. I’d happily copy and paste it into the comments but it’s probably against the rules.
If you begin a task with no clear goal you cannot succeed, nor can you fail. The best you can hope for is to learn something from the process. This will be a costly lesson.
Americans and learning are mutually exclusive at this point.
They have no idea how to win it.
They have no idea what their goal even is.

The goal is to be at war. The US is always at war. There is always an enemy to fight, if there is no convenient enemy to fight then you go to some random country, invade it, and thus create an enemy, who they proceed to then lose to.

For bonus points you should kill as many civilians as possible while claiming to be the liberators. Also you should, on the way out, backstab as many people that assisted you as possible.