BeepLenovo’s New ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability— Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo's new T-series laptops
DiplomjodlerI wonder if this will suit up the “they don’t make them like they used to” crowd.
ÚwÙ-PasswortI allready hate it. Just from looking at the pictures. Give me full size lan, i dont wabt my thinkpad wipping while typing, just so its 0.2cm thinner
Like a table where one leg is longer than the other three.
That is not called “wippping”, it’s not even a word.
Maybe he meant whipping?
Then it would just be nonsense, and looking at their reply to other comments I doubt they ment whipping.
Whipping around is a regular idiom.
It means turning with suddenness.
Thank you!
It says full size rj45?
The machine doens’t wobble because there’s an Ethernet plugged in. The flappy thing is just to maintain the curve. I dont think it even touches the table when plugged in.
So they fixed it? Nice.
Well they dont lol, they are super flimsy these days and most stuff is soldered on. Its good if this turns out to be the start of the return to good thinkpads, but i wouldnt get my hopes up yet.
What exactly is soldered on that shouldn’t be? If you want a processor that’s user replaceable, you should just get a PC. If RAM SSD and the ports are user replaceable, that sounds pretty good to me.
LeonHave you ever carried a laptop on actual travel? Like sprinting across a train station to catch your connection? You’ll definitely learn to appreciate a smaller lighter laptop.
My first laptop was a briefcase. There is such a thing as a happy medium. You could design light laptops that have replaceable parts, but they don’t do that because that would give choice back to the consumer and most manufacturers whole business model is to have you discard your computer and buy a brand new one every few years.
And how is having a socketed processor going to help with that? Even in Framework laptop, you have to swap out the motherboard. And even then, a laptop will never be something that lasts for decades. Technology moves on.
I’ve got two laptops, a personal one, and one from work. They’re both Lenovo laptops.
My personal laptop can be repaired, you can slip out the battery and replace it without even using a screw. There’s actually two batteries, one is internal and does require some screws to be removed but it’s not very difficult. Anyone who wants to can easily do that. The same goes for the fan and cooler, RAM, and SSD, network card, keyboard, screen, and trackpad. There’s probably a bunch of other things that can be easily replaced that I just haven’t looked into.
My work laptop is from 2022, so it’s about 4 years old now. It doesn’t have a second external battery. Opening it up is a bit tougher, and you can’t replace things as readily.
They have roughly the same dimensions, and weigh about as much. I don’t really see the added value to me as a consumer with this newer laptop.
That’s what the T14s is for, no?
artyomno PCMCIA slot.
Alright, Gramps. Let’s get you back to bed.
Predictable.
Here’s a related issue, see if you spot the pattern.
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And how is having a PCMCIA slot going to help with that?
Our business stopped buying them completely after they fucked us around with the USBC port burnouts and didn’t acknowledge it, I know it’s not a huge amount but they will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars of sales from us
So many laptops just wasted before they patched it
Now if I can buy it cheaper empty without microslop spyware installed on it, that would be great
Nice. Well actually I know that they offer linux preinstall when I occasionally look at their sales on their regional site time to time. It’s good to see affirmation that they will continue to offer no winslop option.
I’ve only bought a laptop from lenovo directly once, and it was horribly overpriced. Don’t know it it changed in the last 15 years since I bought it though.
Avid AmoebaOoh yes baby! As an early Framework adopter who’s repaired it already a few times, including a solder job on the board, I am happy to see it. I am getting increasingly angsty about where Framework would go in the future as its VCs crank up the profit knob. Having the biggest real manufacturer in the world introduce an alternative is fantastic. With that said, it also depends on Lenovo actually making parts direct-for-purchase available at decent prices. Without that, repairability serves just as marketing wank.
E: Is that a magnesium body plate?
TywèleFact.
But to be honest, the strength of the body of the Framework is pretty weak. Drops and more pressure result in permanent bending. I’ve already replaced one bottom. So if one wants a physically durable machine that can be thrown around, upgradeability might be okay to give up.
I thought they went away from it for their latest gens.
No, they’ve always had some sort of magnesium reinforcement. Full blown roll cage? Yeah that went away around the T440 series. E or L series? They’ve always been cheaper. But there’s always been some magnesium reinforcement on the T series.
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Oh yeah. You’re right.
Lenovo also owns the Motorola phone brand, and they’re going to adopt/allow GrapheneOS. I think they know how to grab customers right now, and I honestly like it.
They’re usually also well supported on Linux, and even sell them with Ubuntu pre-installed. Generally not a terrible brand.
Is that a good idea for a non tech person* with no Linux experience who absolutely needs to send documents successfully to others the first time without delay or should I just wait until my degree is finished and I am less dependent on document interoperability and have fewer absolute deadlines?
- My level of technical knowledge is here: if a program or usb device isn’t functioning, I know to check the driver, but I always have to look up what the device manager is called. On the other hand, I am capable of looking things up and following simple instructions, which has to count for something.
Not gonna lie, Linux is a pretty big learning curve, but it’s worth it to get away from Apple and (especially) Microslop Winblows. It’s the only OS that respects the user.
IMO switching to Linux as a new user is no harder than switching from Windows to Mac, which I think is something more people can identify with and aren’t afraid of, for the most part.
Couldn’t disagree more. Having to learn how to use the command line to complete basic tasks is a huge learning curve.
what basic task have you run into that requires the command line? have you tried Mint? my 83 year old dad has been on mint for over a year with no complaints, and I don’t think he even knows how to open the terminal …
I’m just not interested in rehashing this conversation. Anyone who has used Linux already knows, even if they won’t admit it. Being dishonest about it isn’t helping anyone. I used Windows for 30 years and never touched any kind of CLI in that time. I did use it on MacOS but only for Homebrew because there’s no other GUI alternative.
OK, if your talking homebrew on Mac, then your not just doing “basic” things. yes, for power users on Linux, we need to use the CLI. For actual basic things (browsing, word processing, consuming media) you absolutely don’t need to touch it at all on many “noon” distros.
So claiming that there’s a steep learning curve for basic things is going to turn off new users, who would be perfectly fine never looking at a terminal to do what they need
i think it heavily depends on the person’s use case. if someone is doing web browsing and maybe making a couple word documents, the learning curve is negligible. also, you dont need to use BASH to do most things, it’s 2026. most anything you can think of, you can do via GUI.
That Is almost always a hardware compatibility issue, if you get a machine that is specifically meant for Linux, even the jankiest of distros will not have all but the last issue, and for the last one if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.
if you get a machine that is specifically meant for Linux
LOL those are all like $2k
if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.
I don’t think you understand what this is…
LOL those are all like $2k I’ll give you that if you want it officially supported they tend to come with those price tags, although i did find this one which is officially supporting linux at the midrange price tag Laptop, I mainly mean that the individual components are supported which you could determine through a little bit of research, but generally speaking if you don’t want to pay the premium, you should be prepared for a little bit of trouble shooting, but normally it is only for the webcam nowadays. Overall, I have changed the os on many of my laptops, and they have always either had no missing functionality after installation or had a forum that explained how to fix its issues that was a one and done fix.
if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.I don’t think you understand what this is…
Could you be more specific about what you mean? I don’t think I claimed anything that would be out of the purview of fractional scaling.
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