Mastodawn

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

Look at this fucking shit:

EDIT: some people are angry that i am potentially misleading because this isn't a recent headline. i am trying to make a point about the decay of traditional media and our current state of things. but yes, this is is from 2014, after #bezos bought WaPo. my point still stands, and you should follow my account for commentary, not breaking news

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce Please say that it's 14 years old! When did Bezos buy the WP? (Rhetorical question)
Until now I trusted your posts. But using content in such wild combinations, sorry ...
Edit: more than 11 years.

Paul Schoe Mar 5

You are very right, this post is from April 25, 2014, More than 11 years ago.

I hope that it is an oversight from Ben Royce, but otherwise it is very disappointing.

Armin Hanisch Mar 5

@paulschoe @NatureMC @benroyce By browsing thru the comments I am not astonished by the fact how few acutally looked up the article (at least the date) or read it (or beware, at least read an abstract of the book by Ian Morris if not the book itself). This just shows that (and Ben should have known this as he left out the date) how easy it is also in the „friendly fediverse“ to misguide people and how lazy and unread most of them are.

Paul Schoe Mar 5

To my regret, but, as you demonstrate, the picture seems to be manipulated by removing the date,, from now on I will be more cautious when I see posts from Ben.

@Linkshaender @NatureMC @benroyce

Petra van Cronenburg

@paulschoe I don't think that it's openly manipulated. Depending on the device, the date can be under the picture. Then it would be wrongly cut. 😉 @Linkshaender @benroyce

Paul Schoe Mar 5

I indeed concluded that because on my PC browser, the date is above the picture.

You might be right (I hope so).

@Linkshaender @benroyce

Armin Hanisch Mar 5

@paulschoe @NatureMC @benroyce Nope, I have to object Petra. Just did a test on four different devices. Every time the date is clearly visible between the title and the illustration. No way you can accidentally skip that. For me personally, alas, that‘s a hard blow to Bens credibility.

Paul Schoe Mar 5

Same for me. It changes from 'oversight' to 'deliberate misinformation'.

From now on, I will be more cautious.

@NatureMC @benroyce

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@paulschoe @Linkshaender @NatureMC

right. because i'm not a paid reporter. nothing i said was untrue. i was making a point. you're acting like you bought a newspaper and found out the reporter lied. it's a little overdramatic on your part don't you think?

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@Linkshaender oh ... thanks. @paulschoe @benroyce

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

is it really that big of a deal?

the point i am making is true. that it isn't recent doesn't change that. but i suppose there is an expectation that my account is a breaking news account?

Armin, Paul: if you want to unfollow me, that's fine. i believe you're holding me to expectations which are unfair on flimsy grounds

that someone makes a point with their account, if it is true or not. not that they are paid reporters. obviously i am not

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe
yes it is that big of a deal

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@nrmacdonald @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

then unfollow me

and fuck off

is anything untrue?

no

everyone's always getting so fucking upset about the wrong things. i just don't fucking care anymore. it's always so overwrought and dramatic on the fucking fediverse. we're going to hell in a handbasket, and that seems to me to be the bigger problem

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe
Clarity of context is enlightening.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@nrmacdonald @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

it is. are you paying me? no. so like i said, fuck off

sorry for my grave grave crime

what a fucking joke

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@nrmacdonald @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

all 4 of you:

i edited my comment on the basis of your complaints

but i would really like it if all 4 of you unfollowed me

because fuck you

endless nitpicking on the fediverse is driving me fucking bonkers

i'm not a fucking news outlet. i am making commentary. this is a real article. my comment is valid

i am not working for you in the news room, to be criticized on the basis of breaking news journalistic integrity

it's a fucking joke

🖕🖕🖕

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce It's a pity, I thought we could have a rational discussion. However, I shall comply. Perhaps you should also stop following me to be consequent? 😉 (This is now truly kindergarden level, a real pity.)

And now we are writing 100 times "fuck" in every combination we can find. 🤓 🤡

@nrmacdonald @Linkshaender @paulschoe

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@NatureMC @nrmacdonald @Linkshaender @paulschoe

already unfollowed

all 4 of you

need to get the nattering nitpicking off my fucking back

i don't owe you shit

you have high standards, you follow those in who you follow

someone disappoints you?

fine, unfollow

don't fucking lecture me like i fucking owe you something, on the basis of overwrought nitpicky bullshit

the article is real. my commentary is valid

apparently not good enough

because you pay me?

FUCK YOU

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce #Toodles!

@nrmacdonald @Linkshaender @paulschoe

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe
Well Ben, I complied and unfollowed.
It's a shame really.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@nrmacdonald @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

then don't act like i owe you, on the basis of nitpicky bullshit, asshole

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe
now I'm supper chuffed to have severed contact little man.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@nrmacdonald @NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

eat shit and die "big man"

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce
sorry but you're not on the menu

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

apparently i was

pick pick pick pick

i'm so glad nattering nitpickers know what is really important in life

you're a big help to the world. of such great service. i don't know how we could go on with out you

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce
grow the fuck up

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

grow the fuck up?

ok

i won't pick pick pick pick at people on some lame personal need, like they owe me, on the basis of a "grave concern" which isn't shit

i will indeed grow up like that

thanks for your wise advice

int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)Mar 5

@benroyce Look, if you're going to get this bent about a small and very valid criticism about a single post in which anyone taking it at face value would assume that the content was contemporaneous when in fact it was over a decade old perhaps you should have a think about it all.
You're not a news service true but neither should you be misleading.

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce No, I don't have this expectation at all.
I'm just a follower who appreciates your posts, thoughts, and opinions very much - you are one of the most inspiring accounts here. I appreciate you debates with facts and respect.

Exactly *therefore* I want to trust your posts. The problem is social media: more and more posts on Mastodon come without sources or arbitrarily glued together for effect only. So I want to get the facts, be sure that what I could boost

@Linkshaender @paulschoe

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce is true. (That's my unpaid work to verify, and a link helps doing this unpaid work quicker.)

No, it's not a big deal. A quick answer why you used a very old screenshot without a date to make your point, would have been enough.
BTW, I'm not a paid reporter. I'm just liking facts in a world of more and more slop.

@Linkshaender @paulschoe

Paul Schoe Mar 5

Hello Ben

I agree with Petra:

'I'm just a follower who appreciates your posts, thoughts, and opinions very much - you are one of the most inspiring accounts here. I appreciate you debates with facts and respect.'

The picture looked manipulated. That was a shock because I take your posts for gospel.

If you had not built a good reputation, I would not have reacted, but since it was you, and assuming that the picture was modified, I was more than surprised.

@NatureMC @benroyce @Linkshaender

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@paulschoe @NatureMC @Linkshaender

i edited my top comment as you desired

i forced you to unfollow, i unfollowed you

FUCK OFF WITH THE ENDLESS FUCKING NITPICKING

IT JUST DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY

you're driving me insane

FUCK YOU

i will from now on sever all connections with overcontrolling nitpicky busybody accounts

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce And thank you very much for the edit, now it's clear! 😊 (BTW, I wasn't angry).

@Linkshaender @paulschoe

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

i don't care

endless endless endless endless nitpicking on the fediverse is beginning to really piss me off

Petra van Cronenburg Mar 5

@benroyce ok, I also want to say this one time in my life: fuck you! 💐 I don't disturb you any longer. @Linkshaender @paulschoe

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

shut up

fuck you

@benroyce Fwiw I think your original point is valid with or without the date. If the professional factcheckers of the fediverse object to your edit, they should just unfollow and move on with their lives. The nitpicky arguments on here about the correct way to post are tiresome.
@NatureMC

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@rejinl @NatureMC

thank you

it's just reached a boiling point for me, apologies for my temper

i might have been too hard on these 4 but i CANNOT STAND this endless nitpicking on the fediverse. i just can't deal with it anymore, i'm just going to start severing connections

they apparently believe they are helping?

they just drive everyone insane

@benroyce You were definitely not too hard on them.

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

remember laffy?

it's these sort of assholes that drove them away

@benroyce She actually blocked me! I thought I was agreeing with her, but maybe my tone was wrong 🤷🏽‍♀

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

that's the anger

i do need to tone it down, i don't want to go off the deep end like that

i just blew my top

what's the acceptable amount of blowing one's top? once a month? 10 times a day? 😆

@benroyce no those people were relentless. Like a dog with a bone! Your response was justified.

Lee from Colorado Mar 5

@rejinl @benroyce (she blocked me too. Similar experience of failing to meet her expectations of how to agree with her.
It's ok -- my timeline is plenty informative and more peaceful without that...)

ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES Mar 5

@colo_lee @rejinl

i liked laffy. but i also didn't comment much on their posts either, otherwise maybe i would have fallen afoul of the banhammer as well

that's why i'm talking about toning down my anger

i think what happens is valid things annoy you... then it builds and then every little fucking thing annoys you, things that aren't a problem, then boom

i don't want to do that

social media is good and bad in many ways. you have to control how you interact with it, or it controls you

Lee from Colorado Mar 5

@benroyce @rejinl Yeah, it can really build.
Wise of you to see that happening and work to manage it!