GlyphI've seen a lot of people talking about the practice of code review in a way that I consider unrealistic lately. So here are my thoughts on what code review is—and isn't—for: https://blog.glyph.im/2026/03/what-is-code-review-for.html
Christopher Neugebauer@glyph have you read the naur paper I've recently been ranting about yet?
@chrisjrn oh wait, “programming as theory building”. yes, I have muddled through a bit of it
@glyph you're making a lot of points that echo it: your "enculturation" idea in particular is very similar, but it's holding some unstated priors (e.g. that having multiple people understand the code is useful); Naur starts from the point of view of long-term maintenance, at which point, understanding seems essential
@chrisjrn it’s definitely ideologically aligned. I didn’t read it too deeply (partially because i have been just generally distracted, but also) because it echoed another one of my faves, https://blog.nelhage.com/post/computers-can-be-understood/ particularly “building mental models” .
Computers can be understood
Computers and computer systems are build up from deterministic, comprehensible, building blocks. Their operations and behaviors can be understood and reasoned about. I relate my personal beliefs and mindset on this point, and explore some manifestations and ramifications of this philosophy.
@glyph That piece is an epistemological argument in the same way that yours is, which I feel would not be compelling to people who haven't developed priors that justify a want of understanding. Indeed, that piece acnkowledges that and implies (and almost explicitly says) that understanding as the end goal is counterproductive.
Which is not to say that the joy of understanding isn't a valid one (I care about it a lot), it's just that if that doesn't motivate people, I don't think your point holds up.
@chrisjrn I have struggled my entire life to relate to incurious people and one of the biggest challenges of my life remains understanding those who do not seek to understand
@glyph this is definitely an mood
Stephen Rosen"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."
I try to imagine that computing is to many folks as taxes and regulation are to me. But then I realize that I think that these topics are interesting, if approached in the right context, and I've lost my ability to empathize again...
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There is, at least, a reasonably immediate and consequential impact to ignoring legal obligations. The long-term impact of not understanding a computing technology sufficiently is… rarely concretely explained, and the accountability aspect is rarely directly felt by the people who err.
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CM ThiedeAnd there's those that are happy to ride the lightning, because there's no stopping it. Might as well be on the capitalizing team.
Alyssa Coghlan@chrisjrn @glyph One of my favourite ever PyCon AU Education Seminar talks was "Running Python on your Brain Computer", with part of the gist being that understanding is an essential part of debugging (as without it, you won't understand what any error messages are trying to tell you, and you won't know where to poke the system to get it to give you more relevant information).
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