@miko @SuperDicq "iT's the rULEz you HAvE to dO iT"

it's impossible to argue cost/benefit and threat/risk with people while they're stuck in that mindset

you need to decouple that link to being a Good Law-Abiding Person before they can understand that the particular laws in question are made by people who embody the negation of every reason why the law is worth following and whose every action and plan will make our lives more nasty, more brutish, more short