CassandrichMar 4

RE: https://chaos.social/@Foxboron/116170859737134271

The blatent use of "AI" to strip copyleft and claim that obvious derivatives are "reimplementations" has begun. This must be fought. Start filing license violation bug reports and abuse reports on projects like this.

(Link here because the quoted post author or their instance seems to have something wrong with their quoting permissions: https://hachyderm.io/@[email protected]ocial/116170859816301768)

Show threadRevK 
@dalias but doing so surely losses all copyright so licence does not matter?
Mar 4 at 4:16pmWeb
Show threadCassandrichMar 4
@revk No, it doesn't. That's what they're trying to claim and warp the recent court case to say (a case that wasn't even about LLM output) and it's obvious nonsense.
Show threadCassandrichMar 4
@revk Copyright is complex because there are potentially multiple copyright holders when derivative works are involved, and all of their permissions are needed. The court case found that purely machine-produced novelty (which wasn't even LLM and didn't involve derivative works) does not get copyright protection awarded to it. But that has nothing to do with the existing copyrights on any works the output was derived from.
Show threadAlexia Mar 4
@dalias @revk what about the official statement by US Congress? www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922

is that... the "they" you're talking about?
Generative Artificial Intelligence and Copyright Law

Show threadCassandrichMar 4

@alexia @revk No, "they" is the "AI" industry and to some extent software industry that wants to seize and enclose FOSS.

The LoC page you linked agrees largely with what I said except not as strongly; it acknowledges that outputs and models may be derivative and may be infringing but allows that there might be cases that are "fair use".

Show threadAlexia Mar 4
@dalias @revk ty! just wanted to clarify

Though, I think the original reply's point is moreso about how to interpret the human-authorship requirement

if I'm reading it right it'd be evaluated on a pretty much case-by-case basis whether there was enough human authorship but I am not a lawyer by any means