@OpenRGB
> Spacebar is an open source, self-hostable Discord alternative. Their intention is to replicate Discord's API and user experience

Huh. Like Stoat.chat (formerly Revolt.chat).

Would be good if these projects federated in some way. But hard to say whether it would make more sense to use Matrix or XMPP/MUC to federate with other chat rooms, or ActivityPub to federate with the forumverse.

@OpenRGB
> it would be a challenge to implement it on a project aiming to 1:1 replicate Discord's API

Why's that?

> I don't think Stoat/Revolt aims to reproduce Discord in a perfectly compatible way

AFAICT they aim to completely clone its functionality. I get the feeling this isn't what you're getting at though. Maybe the answer to the question above might help me grok what you're saying here.

@emergencygg
> Spacebar's goal is quite literally implementing Discord API

Good to know. Was that an answer the comment you're replying to, or just a general comment on the topic of the thread?

@OpenRGB

@emergencygg
> Spacebar is mainly developed to be a self-hostable Discord backend

Ok, so how would one use it? I doubt the standard Miscord apps allow a choice of server.

If you mean an app backend, I doubt Miscord will continue to let off-brand apps connect to their platform if a lot of people start doing that. We've been through this with Xitter, dReddit, YouTub, even Signal. We know exactly where this road leads.

@OpenRGB

@OpenRGB
> There are clients designed for Spacebar like Fermi

If a community stops using both the Miscord servers and their apps, why is it helpful to implement the Miscord API? What am I missing?

> you can also modify the official Discord client to point to different servers or modify other unofficial Discord client

Good to know. But again, why would Miscord continue to allow this if people start doing it on a large scale, when other platforms haven't under similar conditions?

@emergencygg

@strypey @emergencygg There are plenty of precedents that APIs are not protected. Reimplementing an API is legal, Discord can't do anything about that, as it's not using any of their software directly, at least it isn't required to.

However, it means Discord bots will work on Spacebar and it provides a familiar user experience to what people already know from Discord, as the API does tend to guide user interface direction and Fermi looks a lot like Discord.

@emergencygg
> Discord cannot physically stop the reverse (people from connecting the official Discord client to a Spacebar backend server)

Is the Miscord client Free Code? If not, (EDIT) they can continually ship new versions of the app that break whatever is being used to connect to non-Miscord servers.

@emergencygg
> It's possible for Discord to continuously update their API ... in which case they would also break Discord bots

There's all sorts of checks they can add to ensure their client can only connect to their servers. They don't need to change the API in a way that isn't backwards compatible with uses they approve of.

My point is that the Miscord client is a SPoF and it's unwise to rely on being able to use it with Spacebar. But I'm sure you know that, which is why Fermi.

@OpenRGB