Nick HeerMar 3
I spent a very long time getting high-res screenshots of Pages on Lion and Catalina with a non-Retina laptop, and also pulling quotes out of videos. Please do not make me regret it. https://pxlnv.com/blog/window-chrome-of-our-discontent/
The Window Chrome of Our Discontent

In a WWDC 2011 session, Dan Schimpf explained some of the goals of the refreshed design for Aqua in Mac OS X Lion were “meant to focus the user attention on the active window content”. This sentiment was echoed by John Siracusa in his review of Lion for Ars Technica: Apple says that its goal […]

Show threadJonas WisserMar 3

@nickheer God, this made me mad.

I *do* think the prescription is rolling back to a decade-old design language. I recognize that it was imperfect—you make a good point about the smaller mouse targets of the elements that wind up in the formatting sidebar in later versions—but for me personally, I'm very willing to make that tradeoff.

Show threadamonduin

@jwisser @nickheer I was just going to say this. The fact that older versions aren't as "slick" or as pretty in screenshots doesn't mean they are worse UI (though I think even that is debatable as I personally think they look better in screenshots)

People have a hard time with going back because they think it will make software look old. But unless you can actually articulate what better might look like I don't think there is any real choice but to go back to designs that clearly worked.

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Show threadNick HeerMar 3
@amonduin I didn’t call anything “slick” and I argued some of the functional trade-offs.
Show threadamonduinMar 3
@nickheer sorry for being unclear, I wasn’t trying to accuse you of calling it slick, just that generally people seem to feel that going back would be to something less slick or modern