"Ilan Pappé on Israel and Epstein and Why Zionism has No Moral Limits
Is Israel entering a period of irreversible transformation?

In this conversation, I sit down with Israeli historian and author Ilan Pappé to discuss his latest book, Israel on the Brink. Instead of looking backward, Pappé looks forward — imagining what the collapse of political Zionism could mean and what might replace it."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKXts2WBHcE
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