Resist ‘dangerous and socially unacceptable’ age checks for social media, scientists warn

Computer scientists are campaigning against the global march toward age checks online.

Resist ‘dangerous and socially unacceptable’ age checks for social media, scientists warn

Computer scientists are campaigning against the global march toward age checks online.

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Shortening computer scientists to just scientists feels… Wrong
Why?

Because the average computer scientist has zero understanding of the world or human society.

Fun fact: did you know that the average CS major scores worse on reading and writing than a business major?

Do you have a source for

Most computer scientists have very limited expertise, none of which concerns human society

Do I have a source for the fact that computer scientists have no specialized training on topics outside of computer science? (In addition to being apparently illiterate on average, which is what their performance on the GRE implies.)

Fascinating question. Have an upvote.

What about cognitive understanding because those are very specific fields that logically wouldn’t be the strong focal points for cs professionals compared to the other professionals in the chats?.

Do you read what you write?

cognitive understanding

as opposed to noncognitive understanding? Wtf are you talking about?

The same could be said of sociologists and plumbers. Sociologists know about people and society, plumbers know about plumbing, and computer scientists know about computers.

With a topic of computers and society, like this one, they each have insight on the situation. I would hope getting them in a room together would lead to solutions less harmful than what’s been proposed thus far.

Do you also think we should consult chair manufacturers about gaming consoles since most people play sitting down?

Questions about how humans live in society are relevant to people who study this sort of thing.

Just because the internet is accessed via computers which are made of plastic which comes from oil doesn’t mean we should consult oil execs on their opinion. Same with computer scientists.

I wish parents would just step up and take responsibility for their own children instead of making the rest of society deal with it
It’s not the parents, but governments using ‘protecting the children’ as an excuse to push internet surveillance laws.
Yes, I know. I was being facetious lol
Sadly, not enough do, they prefer someone else be to blame, my gfs eldest daughter does do this with her son. Limited screen time, monitored PC in the family room with the screen visible. When she finally lets him run fully free online he will be mature enough to deal with the bs out there, we hope. If more parents did this the “Protect the Children” fallacy would be taken for what it is, surveillance, data mining, and control.
I don’t think parents, most of who have a job and don’t keep their kids under surveillance 24/7, can hope to compete with dozens of corporations with whole teams dedicated to making their platform addictive. I view the parental responsibility in the same way I view carbon footprints: a way to shift blame from corporations to individuals. I think this view also leads to individual-focused solutions that surveil people (age checks, etc) rather than systemic ones that regulate corporations.

Agreed. They need to direct their ire toward the corporations instead of my (and everyone else’s) freedoms.

I said this somewhere else, but I was just being facetious. I think it’s funny to turn the conservative mentality against conservative movements lol

This has literally never happened a single time in all of human history.
Why has it suddenly become a problem now, 35 years after the advent of the web, and 43 years after the advent of the modern internet? This isn’t about kids.
It’s never about kids.
Because it takes time to realize the effects of new technologies. Doubly so when money is preventing research into those effects. Its not a conspiracy.

money is preventing research into those effects.

Its not a conspiracy.

Wait…

Acting in ones own self interest isn’t a conspiracy to me but if thats what you want to call it fine.
It doesn’t even need to be a conspiracy yet. It’s a slippery slope.
ok, everyone, set your age to be 69. if everyone is 69 no one is 69.
Only age check I would accept is on device, if I am 100% the data is encrypted and stored on device.
Are there not just going to be dozens of linux forks without age verification?