StrypeyFeb 27

"The option “Move automatically to DeltaChat Folder” as well as other legacy options will be removed in the next weeks.

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Only if you share the same email address for chatting and classic usage, which is discouraged since some time, the encrypted messages in the Inbox may be annoying."

https://delta.chat/en/legacy-move

This is news to me @delta.

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Show threadStrypeyFeb 27

The whole value proposition of Delta Chat for me was that it gave me a chat-like interface for my personal email account, plus E2EE with anyone I could convince to use it too. No more it seems. This decision by DC devs forces me to either put up with encrypted gobbledygook in my inbox or switch to another email app.

Most of the family and friends I convinced to try DC have since uninstalled it. I have maybe one contact still using it. So I'm afraid it's the end of the road for me and DC.

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Show threadStrypeyFeb 27

I'm surprisingly sad about that. Delta Chat has been a regular part of my communications with family and friends since about 2020.

When I first adopted it, I managed to convince a lot of them to try it, presumably because they could use it with an existing account. I really hoped this could lead to a critical mass of usage that would allow it to displace Meta's Messenger, which is what most of them used.

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Show threadStrypeyFeb 27

Sadly, corporate email providers soon started taking steps that made it harder to use Delta Chat reliably with their services. If at all. One by one my family and friends stopped using it.

Meanwhile the DC team seem to have abandoned this bootstrapping strategy. In favour of improving UX for those of us with the knowledge and motivation to take extra steps to use software that respects our rights. At which point it started to lose the point of difference it had with XMPP/Matrix apps.

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Show threadStrypeyFeb 27

It seems that process has now come full circle. To use Delta Chat, people are expected to set up a dedicated email account for it, and connect to a specialist server running their ChatMail package or something similar. So it has no UX advantage to balance out the many disadvantages it has compared to XMPP or Matrix apps.

Thanks DC, it's been a good run. Guess I better start looking through F-Droid for another mobile email app. Any recommendations?

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Show threadrakooFeb 28
The account on chatmail serversis nothing like an account on matrix or xmpp. You don't care about a login or a password that you have to remember. You just click on "new account" and that's it. The experience is closer to connecting to an open wifi that doesn't nag you with credentials: click, you're connected.

You can always use your own server and account with DC. What has changed for you ?
Show threadStrypeyMar 3

@rakoo I really don't understand what you're saying here. Some of it just seems factually wrong on the face of it, but rather than assuming you don't know what you're talking about, I'm going to presume that you need more than 500 characters to explain what you mean with all this.

Care to expand?

Show threadrakoo
@strypey To use chatmail relays you just create a profile. There's no address to remember, no password to store. You don't need to care about those even when connecting from another device.

But if you don't want a third-party relay you can host your own, and if you don't want a relay you can use any email server, it will work, but then you need to care about your credentials.
Mar 3 at 9:39amWeb