@julieofthespirits

Anarchists don't love Rosa Luxemburg. I mean, there may be some that do for whatever reason, but she hated anarchists and wrote about it.

@richpuchalsky regardless of what luxemburg said about anarchists I can confirm through personal experience that a lot of anarchists love her
@richpuchalsky not really, people are often more ideologically heterodox than seems "logical" and that's not even a bad thing

@julieofthespirits

It's not really a matter of being heterodox: she thought anarchists sucked. She wasn't at all unclear about it. I think that many anarchists may just know she was killed by the state and never bothered to read anything she wrote.

@richpuchalsky I think you may be struggling with what "ideologically heterodox" means

@julieofthespirits

If someone calls themself an anarchist, that's presumably a central commitment for them, right? I don't care how heterodox they are: if they don't think of themselves as some kind of anarchist, why call themselves one?

"therewith the historical career of anarchism is well-nigh ended": I guess people could be heterodox masochists or something? I think it's simpler to just think they haven't read her stuff.

@richpuchalsky lots of anarchists are also into nietzsche and that is a far, far bigger ideological gulf than anarchists and rosa luxemburg
@richpuchalsky anarchists who only read other anarchists are usually not worth talking to, just like marxists who only read other marxists are not worth talking to, or psychoanalysts who only read other psychoanalysts are not worth talking to

@julieofthespirits

I have no objection to them reading her: I just doubt that they did. Whatever you think of Nietzsche, he wasn't actually arguing for one left tendency over another and so people can excuse his right-wing stuff as philosophical.

@richpuchalsky @julieofthespirits iirc most of her anti anarchist stuff is in the Mass Strike, written 1906.

So that's 8 years before her own party the social democrats voted for war credits and she broke with her entire faction except for a couple of people. And 12 years before they sent proto-fascist paramilitaries to assassinate her. Possibly context might be useful in this case.

@catch56 @richpuchalsky also there is always the possibility that many anarchists have in fact read Rosa Luxemburg but not The Mass Strike in particular!