Substance_PA broken clock is still right twice a day.
OmegaOk. Yes. BUT.
You’re against supporting Israel because you’re antisemitic.
I’m against supporting Israel because I’m anti-imperialist and anti-war.
We are DEFINITELY not the same.
TheTechnician27I don’t even think it’s (predominantly) her antisemitism that’s causing this, because she definitely also (probably moreso) hates Muslims; it’s her backwater isolationist mentality that the US should never help anybody but ourselves (totally ignoring how much helping others disproportionately helps us). I wrote a very large portion of Greene’s article on Wikipedia in 2021, and one of the biggest throughlines for her support for Donald Trump in 2020 was isolationism (“America First”).
It’s also why Greene was outspoken against the US’ invasion of Venezuela and kidnapping of Maduro. An ardent anti-interventionalist is bound to occasionally be correct when the one intervening is an impulsive, reckless, bigoted, selfish imperialist.
TropicalDingdongI wrote a very large portion of Greene’s article on Wikipedia in 2021, and one of the biggest throughlines for her support for Donald Trump in 2020 was isolationism (“America First”).
If you look at Tucker’s rhetoric, its very similar.
Greene became politically engaged in 2016 when Trump’s isolationist, white supremacist campaign message resonated with her (two years later in 2018, she moderated a white supremacist conspiracy group on Facebook whose acronym was “FAP”; not relevant, just bringing it up); there’s not a chance in hell her rhetoric wasn’t also inspired by Carlson’s around that time (Trump’s messaging surely was).
Yeah, they get a paycheck from Russia. Isreal has the balls of over half the Republican party in a pedo-vise, that’s the difference
I don’t even think it’s (predominantly) her antisemitism that’s causing this
But it is definitely mixed in there. Make no mistake, she would happily see Israel bombed into oblivion so she can go straight to heaven on the rapture bus.
Exactly. She’s just trying to poison the well of anti Israel sentiment with antisemitic sentiment, which she’s full of. Honestly does anyone really give a shit about what she has to say? Why don’t we just ignore her?
Actually, MTG has shifted her views to being anti-semitic. The conservatives are actually trying to bring her down because of this.
Fuck off Marjorie. You don’t get to be the “Jewish space lasers” lady and a critic of the GOP. Talking shit now doesn’t make you look good, you just look willing to abandon your position when you think it’ll score you points. Republicans truly know how to find the weakest, stupidest, least genuine humans among us.
Republicans truly know how to find the weakest, stupidest, least genuine humans among us.
Yes, but…it works. Kamala isn’t president, and half tbe country loves trump and his hateful messaging.
OoopsShe will cave as soon as her now-reasonable rhetoric faces a personal consequence.
Man. The fact that the three republican front runners for 2028 are all out-flanking Democrats from the left. Tucker, MTG, Owens.
I’ll take “shit we said would happen, but couldn’t get people to listen” for $200, Alec.
mmm word salad
Maybe you are too young to know the reference.
It’s just that the comment is so ridiculous on its face. It’s detached from reality, but maybe that was the “joke?”
LasherzIt’s pretty easy for fascists to outflank neoliberals from the left on a whole host of issues so long as they aren’t forthcoming with their reasoning, which in this case is racism. Being motivated by money and hatred are two different categories and it’s currently dividing the GOP.
What did they say?
Some are making a stand, but not enough. Just look at the other two squirm when pressed on Netanyahu.
11 Minutes of Kat Absolutely Owning the Fox 32 Chicago Debate | Kat Abughazaleh For Illinois
I think you uh… might have responded to the wrong comment?
It’s the right comment. You’ve got the top three democratic candidates for an IL seat, and two waffle when pressed on Netanyahu when asked a very straightforward question.
Ah. Okay. I had posted this clip earlier in the day. Thought some how some wires got crossed.
Yeah, you are absolutely right. And these, all three of them including Kat, are allegedly progressive Democrats. Kat comes through with a clear and articulate answer. I thought it was a good moment of that debate.
And in this context, even MTG has a clearer, more articulate stance than two out of three of the Democrats on that stage.
Those things she mentioned all seem pretty aligned to left vs right to me. Welcome to the left, MTG.
Not that I expect her to be in any way consistent supporting those values. I just think she’d have an aneurism from being welcomed to the left. XD
Lol exactly - saying she happens to be correct right here right now in this tweet does not endorse her in any way beyond that. In fact, it’s not uncommon to come to a “correct” answer from the wrong question, which I think is the path here. It’s merely a brief convergence of answers before some more time passes and she invariably draws the wrong conclusion on the next iteration. Monkeys/typewriters, etc. and round and round we go.
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sp3ctr4lProbably worth noting that this is going to lead to an astounding resurgence/intensification of anti-semitism, so if you’re an anti-Zionist Jew… good luck.
I hate that I can’t mention I dislike the Israeli gov without fear of being called antisemitic by the same people who complained about globalism and “the Jews controlling the media”. Truly the stupidest timeline
explodicleThe trick is to give no shits what those jerks think. We’ve seen what makes them cheer.
Cris_CitrusIt feels like a very smart rebrand but someone who sells racism and hatred doesnt get to double back and try economic populism instead just cause they think it might be a more winning strategy.
She can get bent.
9WhiteTeethThis is pure, cynical political maneuvering. What’s upsetting is I (and other voters) hear this from despicable White Supremacists scum like Greene rather than Democratic Party leaders.
Dems have been trying to get Republicans to vote blue for years, MTG may end up doing the funniest thing ever.
Jo MiranWell, nothing bad has ever happened at L7 o’clock
The exact time the L7 track dropped, shitlist.
(L7 was a punk band)
I get “Setting yourself on fire will keep you warm for the rest of your life” vibes from this woman.
Sadly, in a country steeped in individualistic “culture”, divide and conquer is a particularly effective strategy.
Honestly, that’s largely how the far-right has worked in this country, at least since I’ve been alive. Divide, divide, divide. Make “outsiders” and opposition feel isolated or better yet, make them the enemy responsible for anything and everything ailing the nation. Make up an ailment or few as well while they’re at it, why not?
Divided we fall, and it’s worked out quite well for those in power, so far.
A clock that keeps perfect time is never correct. This feels like an expression of the uncertainty principle.
I’d bet real money that her and all the other “conscientious MAGA objectors” would still vote Trump if they had another chance, though.
MTG Summer of 2028
What the Democrats are pushing is a threat to the America and American way of life, we need to support Trump in this time of war. Trump 2028. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
On the left the Democratic Party, on the right people like MTG
Luminous5481 "Lawless Heathen" [they/them]I don’t like the feeling of agreeing with anything this vile creature says.
Imma lay it out like it was for me. Very few people are wholly evil. You are the culmination of all your acts. Few people are wholly evil. She has two things for her that are good: she didn’t dismiss the Epstein evidence & she is against this war.
Everything else about her is wretched. So yes, she is a vile creature that happens to share two good values with the rest of humanity.
SpiceDealerA friendly reminder that just because a fascist and a Nazi has a disdain for Israel, they’re still NOT allies. They’re still a fascist/Nazi, they’re not to be trusted and/or praised. The left, be they Libertarian Socialists, Marxist-Leninists, Maoists or Anarchists, support the Palestinian cause as it mirrors so many oppressors vs. oppressed dynamics throughout history. Muslims feel obligated to support their fellow Muslims in despair.
Fascists/Nazis oppose Israel out of their irrational hatred of Jews. There’s no separation of the State of Israel and the global Jewish community; there one and the same to them. They erroneously believe that they and Palestinian Arabs share a common enemy when, in fact, Palestine’s struggle is against colonists oppression. Hamas and Hezbollah may spout antisemitic views but this an extension of their radical Islamism. If Fascists/Nazi had their way, Jews, Arabs and all other non-whites would share the gas chambers. They boast about bogus but widely believed conspiracies: Rothschilds, George Soros, ZOG, Cultural Marxism, Great Replacement, so on and so forth. The Rothschilds and Soros are, indeed, pieces of shits but, once again, fascists/Nazis hyperfixate on their Jewishness.
The media will portray the global solidarity movement as in league with fascists and Nazis. We must make clear that fascists and Nazis are not welcomed. That is why it’s important that we, under no circumstance whatsoever, make alliances with fascists/Nazis.
Guy IngonitoMy biggest fear for 2028 is that we’ll face a choice between MTG (or someone in the Nick Fuentes mold) running on an explicitly anti-Israel, white Christian nationalist platform, and AOC running primarily on domestic issues with little foreign policy emphasis and that a vocal contingent on the left will choose the former. Not out of any coherent ideology, but because opposition to Israel has become such an overriding fixation that they’d willingly overlook everything that candidate represents: the rollback of rights for gay, Black, Latino, transgender, immigrant, Muslim, and Jewish communities alike.
I feel like AOC and most (all) of the progressives also oppose Israel though, unless I haven’t been paying close enough attention. So presumable that would presumably prevent said vocal contingent from supporting MTG and her anti-everything political ideals.
Ideally, we should abolish the electoral college and first-past-the-post system of voting.
Damn. I always hated her. But. Her rhetoric is 10/10. This is what made Trump president. She is starting to get dangerous.
She will run for president and she will win.
Our politicians are literally owned by Israel and she is very anti Israel so I doubt it
definitely_AIDid she have a stroke that accidentally fixed her brain?