Track_ShovelA product of his environment
mrnobodyEven the trash cans. Just…put the trash cans in actual view of the camera? How would you buy a camera just to watch your trash cans and then not actually watch the trash cans with it?
Midnight WolfNo, you’re overthinking it. Say the cans are on the opposite side of the house from where op is. If he crosses in view of the front door, he’ll be spotted. So he goes through the backyard instead for access to the cans.
He’s not buying a camera and pointing it straight at the cans from the property fence or something.
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UltraGiGaGiganticEasy solution, jam the wifi signal while moving the mat. Added benefit of making them more concerned that the house is haunted. If the houses are close enough (likely, hoa so suburbs) you could just hook it to a basic wall-wart timer that actives at 3 and deactives at 3:05, and have it + jammer plugged in at the closest outlet to neighbors front door. Ring doesn’t have a wired ethernet version to fix this vulnerability.
…why are you looking at me like that?
Yeah, good idea. Commit a felony offense to cover the tracks of your late night trashcan shenanigan…
It’s only bad if you get caught
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There are radio nerds out there who are extremely interested in RF noise and will absolutely triangulate and report a signal jammer.
Well now we have to move the trash cans of two houses I guess
RVGamer06Hypothetically, near instantly. Realistically, I don’t think someone is going to bother to triangulate a random burst in the 2.4 and 5ghz bands, but someone logging radio traffic for shits and giggles would certainly notice 5-10 minutes bursts of noise early in the mornings saturating the band (you’d need to do the whole band as modern WiFi will channel hop for the best signal).
You don’t have to jam it. You can spam it with DEAUTHs from anything that will run aircrack.
I thought wpa3 made those attacks not possible?
Also jeez, that’s a program I haven’t thought of in 20 years. That and wireshark…
I have a Google doorbell and it’s night vision is terrible. I’ve taken the garbage to the curb during the winter when it’s the darkest and the doorbell didn’t register anything not the noise not the motion. Even knowing what I was looking for I barely show up in the video feed, it looks like a ghost.
kamenladyHave you tried turning the porch light on?
You have no idea how many of those things are mounted such that you can walk up from the side unseen.
Source - my neighbor’s an idiot
Found op. That’s some nice work you’re doing.
Blind spot so big the cans are there too which defeats the purpose of the camera. Got it.
Someone who reports people’s trash cans to the HOA so they can be fined for it probably aren’t someone who understands camera angles.
Even the dumbest person is going to check the feed bro, come on.
They can check the feed all they want. If the angles don’t show anything it doesn’t matter.
Shit Americans will do instead of just abolishing HOAs.
They’ve creeped into Canada. I always call people who voluntarily join an HOA authoritarian morons.
There’s a reason I bought a 14 acre homestead for $225k four years ago than anything in an HOA.
I’d rather live in the middle of no where and shovel snow, carry firewood downstairs, feed chickens and pigs and break up frozen waters and dig out doors, deal with 6ft drifts blowing around my house all winter, than ever share space with fucking Gary.
It’s the HOA Karens that run politics, so you do the math on how well that’d work out.
ReygleThis would be me if I ever moved to the suburbs in an HOA, which I would never do on purpose.
I am enraged by proxy at the very existence of HOAs even though I have never been part of one or indeed interacted with an HOA or even (knowingly) a member of one. I just hate them for existing.
I have had some shitty HOAs and I now live in a home with no HOA for a reason. Fuck those overbearing shitheads.
IDK. I’ve had good and bad experiences with them. But overall more positive than negative. It’s all about which HOA you’re talking about. Yes, you can say you should be able to do what you want with your land. But that isn’t how any kind of land ownership works anywhere on Earth. There are always some entities regulating how you can use it, as you inevitably have neighbors and you don’t have a right to damage the enjoyment of their property.
Can they be overbearing? Sure, the wrong ones can. But they also keep mean that I don’t have to worry about my next door neighbor turning his property into a junkyard.
I’ve had 2 and they were both far, far more than just overbearing (yes, I realize that I used that word in my previous comment). My first HOA had a pair of elderly sisters that were both on the board that would walk around the subdivision a few times a week with clipboards just looking for anything that they would come at you with. One time they had the board lawyer send me a threat of putting a lien on my property because I had left a pain can on my driveway for a few hours… while I was literally painting a room.
The only people that HOAs serve are authoritarians and people who only think of their home as an investment whose value is more important than anything else. I just won’t play that game anymore.
Respectfully, you’re painting with far too broad a brush. I don’t consider it authoritarian to not want my next door neighbor to turn their front lawn into a junkyard. Again, it really depends on the HOA. I know that goes against the Lemmy party line, but it’s my lived experience and the experience of millions of American homeowners.
I don’t consider it authoritarian to not want my next door neighbor to turn their front lawn into a junkyard.
That is authoritarian, regardless of how reasonable the desire is. If the only thing keeping your neighbor from turning their front yard into a junkyard is a threat of force, is that a relationship worth preserving?
I mean, you can masturbate about all laws, contracts, and agreements being a “threat of force,” but I don’t give such libertarian dogma any credence.
I’m the kind of person who would go full rules-lawyer on them, get myself elected to the board and generally rip out every silly rule they have if not completely disband the HOA if needed
Not that easy - changing the rules generally requires a vote to the homeowners, not just the board, and usually requires a minimum amount of participation (like a majority have to approve, regardless of how many(few) vote).
I mean, maybe I’m a bit too optimistic but if they’ve pissed me off they’ve probably pissed off everyone so it should be easy to convince enough people to show up to tear out the silly rules that they keep getting fines for
The term Gaslighting gets thrown around a lot, but if this story were actually real it would be the perfect modern day example of it.
Ya no way this is real. My ring doorbell detects the damn trees when the wind blows too hard. Not a chance he avoids the camera.
Unless he was behind it, like the post implies.
If the neighbor is concerned enough to call a priest after exhausting all natural means of dealing with the problem, he’s surely going to point the camera right at the trash cans.
I’m imagining there’s some setup to how the cans were placed that creates a blindspot where the OOP can move them without himself being seen, so the camera will simply pick up the cans moving each night without any clear source of the movement
Ring doorbell camera can’t be “pointed”, it screws to a flat surface, presumably the doorway. That said, they have a pretty wide field of view.
My ring doorbell
Obligatory get that police state spyware off your home and use something else (if cameras are even at all necessary!)
apfelwoiSchoppenNot HOA but similar. I was living in a different city during covid. The city closed the outdoor parks in the poor and working class neighborhoods, the rich folk parks remained open.
They started wrap the swings at the park around the top bar. I’d unwrap them each day and that went on for about two weeks. Then they went to zip tying the swings together so they couldn’t be used. So I would cut the zip ties each day. This went on for another few weeks. They they brought a sign post and a sign saying the park was closed and using the swings was prohibited. I dug the sign post out and threw it in the woods. Then they chained the swings together with a pad lock so I went to harbor freight and bot very heavy duty bolt cutters and lopped the chain off. That lasted a few weeks then they just took the swings away. I debated about buying swings and attaching them but figured the gambit went on as long as it should have and called it. I had fun.
I love it. Perhaps it would have been more effective to just do whatever they did to the swings at the other parks? Either way it’s good stuff
My park was close to my house and it was closed by ordinance, the other rich ones were not. There is no difference in the parks at all other than the property values in the neighborhoods in which they sat. I wasn’t going to go to city hall and complain since the mayor and council people were all from the rich neighborhoods. Rule of law is downwards in our class based society.
Are you saying sabotage the rich kids swings? Thats awful. Like something done shit to your park so you’ll pay it forward to other innocent kids. Terrible behaviour. You should be mad at the people doing it and take it out on them or the rule makers.
I mean if the city is gonna actively punish poor kids then fuck them rich ones, they should suffer just the same. Teach them some humility instead of the upper class bubble they’re in.
The correct response is to find out who is responsible for the chaining/closing and start chaining/closing their stuff. Randomly messing with another park doesn’t hurt anyone and just means another park is closed.
I think the removed signs should’ve been liberated and re-placed at the rich neighborhood park, and chains should’ve simply been set by the swings there. Make them see what they’re doing and explain to their families why this is happening (if they even bother to use their parks)
Good effort! Hopefully some of the local kids got to enjoy the swings after your heroics each day, & that the council/city eventually put them back after restrictions loosened again.
They did eventually, I think it took more than a year. It was ridiculous.
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