What’s wild to me is how this exact same thing occurs with every presidency, and has for 40 years, and almost no one will vote Green or Libertarian.

You all seem to know you’re being lied to and accept it, provided you like the external packaging.

But those that would vote for the 3rd party are those that are voting against red and we don’t want to split our vote as those that vote red wont change from their party. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If we can break up the red vote we can try to vote another party.

Exactly, preaching to anyone ever remotely left of the democrats to vote 3rd party is just begging the only tenuous coalition of progressives to split the voter base and hand the conservatives power for decades to come.

We should be in the comment sections of conservative spaces trying to amplify whatever cracks have formed between segments of their voterbase.

Like throwing a rock in a river and expecting it to stop water flow. 3rd party just isn’t the answer right now. Only hope currently is MAGA splits from OG Republicans, but I don’t see that happening. They love party loyalty.
Third party could be a great answer, but not till we completely overhaul our voting system. And that’s not gonna happen before some authoritarian heads roll.
What new wars with direct US involvement started under Biden? What new wars happened under Obama, or Clinton? Or any Democrat that started a war in a foreign nation in the last 50 years. I’m not talking selling surplus outdated weapons to another nation, I’m talking boots on the ground, enlisted military going into another nation and fighting in direct conflict.