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dan 💾@NanoRaptor The micro sd to standard sd card adapters should have always been printed like that ;)
@NanoRaptor Beautiful! 😻
mmu_man@billgoats @NanoRaptor how do you UV inkjet? Do you need a specific printer or just one you can swap the tanks on?
Helle, Queen of Dissociation 
@NanoRaptor @billgoats those should just be a commercial item, together with microSD cards as well (I know there are stickers, I need to print some)
really wished for a wrigley gum MemoryStick back in the day
the MemoryStick is still my favourite human friendly form factor, thin, but easy to hold and not likely to be lost
R.L. Dane 
🍵 
I'm sad we never got a truly ubiquitous portable storage format to replace floppy disks.
CD-RW?s and DVD[+-]RW?s (and DVD-RAMs) kinda-sorta did for a while, but they were never as flexible as floppies, zips, or flash drives.
Then flash drives reigned supreme, but using them was always a little awkward, like:
10 ATTEMPT INSERT
20 FLIP DEVICE
30 GOTO 10
...and there never was a standard form factor, nor was there ever the sense of having a "drive" that you plugged into, but just a spare USB port.
I never had an actual memory stick, nor loved the SONY proprietariness and vendor lock-in, but the form factor was quite nice.
I [o]pined on that subject [here] ;)
kabel42@rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats you don't need to flip a floppy 3 times until you get the data you wanted?
mirabilos@mirabilos @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats those are nearly sqare, you can flip them in soo many ways and then wonder why they don't fit
@kabel42 @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats … just insert it in the obvious, right direction, which is also shown on the box (and on the sleeve, for 5¼″ floppies)
@mirabilos @kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
Never saw it myself, but I heard stories of people supposedly folding 5 1/4" floppies in half to insert into their new computers with 3 1/2" drives. XD
@rl_dane @kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats aieee!
Thank the goddess I started with 9 cm floppies.
@mirabilos @kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
There were 8" / 20cm floppies, too, but I never had one of those.
Saw them in the movie #WarGames, and also saw some in use at my dad's uni back in the early 90s.
zwangseinweisung@rl_dane @mirabilos @kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats somewhere in my dungeon, I have a few of them. Just to show off and not actual using
@zwangseinweisung @mirabilos @kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
I had a single punch card in my possession at some point. I'm bummed I no longer know where it is.
@rl_dane I would place them in a book to avoid bending
WesDym@kabel42 @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats (fwiw, 90×94×3.3 mm, in case anyone needs to look it up; they are actually specified in millimetres, not imperialistic units)
ECMA-147 specifies:
The case has a rectangular form, its sides shall be
L₁ = 94,0 mm ± 0,3 mm
L₂ = 90,0 mm + 0,4 mm - 0,1 mm
The radius of three of its corners shall be
R₁ = 2,0 mm ± 1,0 mm
The ange of its fourth corner shall be
ω = 45° ± 2°
L₁ is the height, L₂ the width.
In the area extending 8,5 mm from each of the two edges as shown in Fig. 8, the thickness of the case shall be
E₁ = 3,3 mm ± 0,2 mm
[…] The edge radius shall be
R₂ = 0,40 mm ± 0,25 mm
[More] (including hub access hole, locating holes, window, etc.)
@mirabilos @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
Ok, but USB has a specified orientation and in addition cabels are supposed to have the logo on the top, but manufacturers don't care that much about standrds Spec (Plug on Page 35)
Ok, but USB has a specified orientation and in addition cabels are supposed to have the logo on the top, but manufacturers don't care that much about standrds Spec (Plug on Page 35)
@kabel42 @mirabilos @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
Yes, they were labeled, but remember that computers used to only come with USB ports in the back, or maybe, at best, some oddly-angled ports behind a door at the front?
It was hard to see, and even when you did see it clearly and put it in the right way FIRST, neither the tip of the connector nor the port were remotely beveled, so they'd catch all the time and trick you into thinking you were still somehow inserting them wrong. XD
@kabel42 @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats yes, but it does work for floppy discs because they are no mere labels
@kabel42 @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats manufacturers cannot ignore the dimensions and placement of the shutter or the disc won’t at all work
@mirabilos @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
You can have a disc without and it works perfectly fine, i've had some that lost theirs over time. There were also some disks with the shutter in the same color as the rest of the disk, I had some completly black ones.
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You can have a disc without and it works perfectly fine, i've had some that lost theirs over time. There were also some disks with the shutter in the same color as the rest of the disk, I had some completly black ones.
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@kabel42 @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
Heh, just once on some older 5.25" floppies. ;)
@rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats I don’t trust µSD cards with data. From experience.
Especially when you have to use one of the converters.
CF cards are nice(r).
R.L. Dane 🍵 (@[email protected])
STOP USING MICRO SD - Data Storage wasn't supposed to be swallowable - What is even the point of having a disk you could hide under a loose fingernail? - With the approximate surface area of, I don't know, a molecule, how in the world is heat supposed to be dissipated?? - Flash media supports incredible storage densities, but that doesn't mean you have to create a storage format that takes up the same volume of a drop of water! - Regular SD was the PERFECT size!! THEY HAVE PLAYED US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS!!!! cc: @amin
@kabel42 @rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats right, SD slots are kinda bad with that as well.
And, accidentally brush against them, they throw out the card. Linux refuses to accept it back when re-inserted, unlike floppies. No way to even sync, have to do a hard reset (Alt-SysRq-O).
@rl_dane @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats I think these only exist for up to a GiB or two, and are very rare. If you order one, you generally get a µSD in a (bad) converter instead.
@mirabilos @helle @NanoRaptor @billgoats
There are some full SD cards aimed at photographers that are available still. There's a premium, though.
patpro@NanoRaptor @billgoats this is epic :D
Julian Kussman@NanoRaptor @billgoats can you print an SD adapter that looks like a laptop and a micro SD that looks like a diskette?
@NanoRaptor @billgoats those are data destroyers