baatliwalaMotorola confirms GrapheneOS support for a future phone, bringing over features
But how are they going to include useless “uninstallable” apps and advertisements?
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yardratianSomawhich is fine, I mean, you’d want decent specs + a secure OS in this day and age
Not everyone want one tho, i saw people saying that they use 200€ motorola phones, tbh i am using a 230€ tablet and it’s fine for normal tasks and drawing
yeah, I was looking at the Moto G15 for my next phone, but with this news, I’m considering sacrificing a little upfront cost for a better OS
I’m on a second generation of Motorola phones. I gave them a shot with the 2020 g power and upgraded to the 2023 edge+. The g power was fine for about 2 years but then I really began to feel the brunt of having such a underperforming chipset. I’d definitely suggest getting something that’s more in the midrange price bracket given my experience. My advice so take it or leave it.
shortwavesurferYou don’t need high specs these days. I was looking at the Moto G 2024, because it’s the latest version to support Lineage OS, and it has a Snapdragon 4 Gen 1, I think it is, which is actually just slightly better than my OnePlus Nord N200 on Geekbench, which is fine.
The main difference is that my OnePlus Nord N200 was released in 2021, and it has a lower geekbench score than the Moto G 2024, which was released in 2024, with a lower-end chip. But my OnePlus cost $300, where the G24 was released at $200, and is now available for $130.
So at its release, I would have gotten more storage and a better CPU for $100 less, and now it would be $170 less.
I have one. It’s honestly not bad. The only thing it could use is 8GB RAM and not 4. Otherwise it’s perfectly good for my uses. Seems quick enough, has a jack, etc.
What I do when I’m shopping for a new phone is go to the LineageOS download site and look at what the mid-range devices are available for each of the OEMs and then make my choice from that list. Otherwise, the Moto G 2024 probably wouldn’t have crossed my radar screen. A couple of years ago I had the Moto 1 5G Ace and thought it was a great device except that the charger port started to give out on it and so I couldn’t reliably charge it. That made me realize that at some point I would like a device with wireless charging even if I do primarily use the USB charger so that if the USB port ever breaks I can just charge it wirelessly and not have to give the phone up entirely.
MereoGraphene might be marketed towards enterprises first. Look at that leaked slide again: it mentions “bloatware-free interface with Business Edition.”
The bigger leak is Motorola acknowledging they ship bloatware, IMO
Ironically I bought a cheap moto g because microslop intune settings where I work do not allow for Graphene os in the attestation check.
Only use it when wfh so if I’m away from my desk I don’t miss teams calls and look like I’m doing laundry (which I probably am)
I mean, they could still include those on the base model of the phone, but just officially support flashing Graphene for those who want to do it. I am reasonably certain the target markets for pre-installed apps/ads and people who would be interested in flashing Graphene are completely separate groups. Kind of like how a stock Pixel is basically Google/Gemini Spyware, but Thayer doesn’t matter to someone who buys one to install Graphene.
thatsnothowyoudoitIt is owned by Lenovo, make of that what you will.
Google is also basically American. Make of that what you will.
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Dynamo MausI want the full stack lenovo linux compatibility.
Motorola for phones, lenovo for everything else.
Fairphone, Nothing, or Shift would have been my preferred options. But anything non Google is a plus.
Fairphone is meh.
Neat idea but lackluster execution.
Is there any phone besides the Pixel or iPhone (I will never buy Samsung), that has a comparable camera performance?
I have a FP6 and I’m very happy with it, haven’t had any issues with their hardware
I am happy with FP5 as well. Friends have the FP6 with murena and the microphone is increbly bad - do you/did you have the same problem?
How strange, no my microphone is absolutely fine, but I’m currently using regular Android not /e/OS
What OS are you running on it?
Just regular android at the moment
So what if it is? Replace the stock OS with GrapheneOS and it doesn’t matter who manufactures the phone.
Except we know hardware backdoors are a thing.
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gandalf_der_12tetheoretically you should be right but there’s software hidden in the hardware that you can’t uninstall or modify that could (hypothetically) be surveilling you. like in the networking equipment that’s inside the phone.
realistically, i think the chances for that happening are actually very low, also because the networking firmware could only see your encrypted data packets, but it could still figure out the IP addresses that you communicate with. i’d rate it a none/low risk level. your ISP could also surveill you in the same way, with probably less technical difficulty. also you could circumvent that by using VPN.
also people can actually check what the networking firmware actually sends through the air (you need special equipment to intercept the packages mid-air) so it’s risky for them to do it because they could be caught and exposed.
I solely need camera, contactless payments and projection for cars. If it is capable of these I am pre ordering.
Contactless payment will not happen under grapheneOS, it relies on google play services and integrity check. Graphene does have sandboxed play services, but it doesn’t pass integrity check.
lumpenproletariatThat’s a deal breaker for me, I haven’t carried a physical card of any sort in years.
fernandofigSame here, and unfortunately there is no digital wallet providers in my country other than Google Pay, Samsung Pay and Apple Pay.
cabbageGaël Duval, the lead developer behind /e/OS, has been recommending an app called Zettle on his blog. It at least work on degoogled /e/OS, probably GrapheneOS as well. I have no personal experience as I prefer sticking to cards.
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The most famous one is probably PayPal. But I assume for people who are privacy focused, that would be not the first choice.
There is Curve Pay, but I know nothing about it besides the fact that it exists.
Samsung Pay exists, but it only works on Samsung devices and therefore is not really an alternative in this case.
And then there are some regional options. Here in Germany are same banks that offer their own payment apps, most famously the Sparkassen. I heard there are also some Indian and east Asian payment apps, but I don’t know much about them.
That’s not true. Google Pay (or Wallet?) doesn’t work on GrapheneOS. NFC and contactless payments work perfectly fine. You can use Curve Pay or in Poland BLIK via bank apps.
OK, none of these are supported where I live…so YMMV
AniviaDoes GrapheneOS support Google Pay?
tabularIt absolutely does
Yup, it uses a sandboxed version that you can control.
It supports google play services, but google pay does not work on graphene.
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