@neil Call me someone who doesn't have kids, but if parents want an outright ban on social media or an overnight curfew then isn't that something they could do themselves?
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@dan @neil ha, no. We've already seen how broken, annoying and ineffective adults are at attempting to restrict children online. It's called the Online Safety Act.
@dan @neil yes, but that’s not how you force every citizen and visitor in your country to have to show id to use the internet

@dan @neil the whole thing is a false flag. If you want to stop addictive social media you regulate it for all. This is like the cigarette companies being allowed to murder adults only.

Starmer though hasn't the guts to do that because his orange pal will get cross, nor the clout after Brexit.

@dan @neil They had some campaigners on Breakfast just now.

One admitted they "didn't know their child was on SM".

One said they "didn't know how to get on the dark web so they were sure children wouldn't be flocking there" and there was no evidence children were moving to it after the bans in Au and the OSA here (despite the VT literally a minute earlier saying the opposite)

Yes parenting is hard but SM is simply this generation's bogeyman.

Banning it will not help and is not the answer.

@dan @neil Technically, yes, but social dynamics are important. If your kid is *the only kid in the entire class* who isn't allowed on social media, they will risk getting isolated. So as a parent you constantly have to navigate this minefield where you want to help your kid develop healthy social relationships. Society making the right choices helps with that. Schools having sensible policies and enforcing existing regulation (hate speech, doxxing, deepfakes, etc) go a long way, though.

@lastofthem @dan @neil I don't agree with such a ban, but I do agree with this take.

Our kid hasn't had a smartphone when most of the class had -- throughout growing up -- and the increasing regulation of them makes this easier to justify and reduces isolation.

They do have access to messaging, etc, from a computer in a shared space, and can now SMS and call on their brick-phone in private. We let them post in some forums, where we've checked out the vibe.

Digital independence is like other kinds. It comes in dribs and drabs as they mature, brick by brick.

Not a fan of the Westminster Set interfering with that process with their size tens, though.

@dan @neil as a techie parent yes I can. However parents are busy and children are crafty so there is help that ISPs could provide to assist here. Help that would put the onus and indeed the surveillance requirement firmly with the family rather than the nanny state.