Hofmaimaieroffended? welcome!
muntedcrocodileTheir is no objective measure of if something is a slur. Their is simply a word and some quantity of the population that find that word subjectively offensive against themselves. If enough people say that a word is a slur then it becomes a slur.
arnitbierYour so full of shit đ
Most basic man alive
It has to be accepted as legitimate by the most of the population for it to be considered a slur guy not just the people getting offended (hard for you to imagine a small group doesnât get to define legitimacy of words or ideas)
Sometimes a group is right in the complaint about use of a word BEFORE its legitimized as a slur by the greater population, but yeah thatâs not how any of that works
Its complicated but as the reductive or objective reasoning on a complex social issue you did, ya failed bad.
And I donât usually do this but you used the worst fucking one, itâs âThereâ bro
Ehh, thereâs a sliding window for things where the common interpretation changes. A term can be offensive to one group for reasons not commonly acknowledged by the rest of society, at what point is it generally deemed unacceptable?
One in particular that comes to mind is the term âretardedâ, which at some point was a medical term of art. Over time it became generally used in a derogatory fashion, was replaced in professional language by more specific clinical terms and treated as a slur by society, but there wasnât some defining body that declared it so.
Objective analysis is possible but limited also, promise Iâll get to the point
Is the word PRIMARILY designed to do harm?
Is it INTENDED to do so?
Is the word designed at its INCEPTION to separate a group because they are less then or do harm? Or primarily simply designating a socially constructed separation that wasnât there before and is useful in some new way to the cultural zeitgeist?
And of course, what is its most common use cases in day to day living in the larger world not just the niche one it was formed or used by?
So for example, if I call you a retard, TODAY, its probably meant to hurt and/or make you less then me, not to designate a social construct of separation that was useful or that we needed at a DIFFERENT time (the development of mental health fields and medical diagnosis of intelligence and physical capability)
If we no longer use retarded to designate medical separation of intellect because we didnt yet understand and now only use it for hurting people then it changes its designation from a word that CAN or COULD be used to hurt, to a drastically different word that mostly just used as an insult and as it was created to separate a group as less then and not just witness them as people, effects a marginalized group of people and is considered a bad use or even a slur but we would have to generally accept it as such for it to become designated as a slur
The general person (or layman) still defined its designation and we could always go back (as with all words) its a MASSIVE group made yet totally individual group consensus and its one of the most communal aspects of all human society (its federated you could say haha)
Trigger warning for harsh language used to drive in my good points
CIS, COULD become a slur once the idea it represents becomes so common knowledge that it is no longer a useful term but the separation it represented can still be weaponized (as it sometimes is today but not often enough to constitute its slur designation) But we are decades off that. Were still in the âyou hurt my feels by noting a separation I didnât likeâ cowardly weaponised marginalization by people with weaponized victim complexs competing with the larger group. Ones who leverage language use and the general âfeelingâ of marginalization to try and establish dominance and to push forward their goals and desires in a society that doesnât in practice, consider them any kind of special authority on social issues as Ive pointed out (even if they think they are for whatever god complex, special individualism bullshit they believe in)
As stated previously, Its complicated, and not for the witless wonders to take bites out of without knowing its above their pay
Thanks for the comment, helped my avenue of thought
You are so full of shit dude đ
Letâs argue about the content of my argument and not resort to personal bad faith attacks on eachother.
It has to be accepted as legitimate by the most of the population for it to be considered a slur guy not just the people getting offended (hard for you to imagine a small group doesnât get to define legitimacy of words and ideas I can tell)
So any word that has a 51% of the population say its not a slur is thus not a slur to use? I donât think you are aware of how this would turn out.
Sometimes a group is right in the complaint about use of a word BEFORE its legitimized as a slur by the greater population, but yeah thatâs not how any of that works
So this paragraph exists to negate ur previous paragraph when I inevitably point out that many words u belive to be slurs donât meet the criteria u outlines as slurs. But u can claim that its still a legitimate slur cos its offending a special snowflate âprotected groupâ.
Its complicated but as for the reductive or objective reasoning on a complex social issue you did, ya done failed bad.
Usually an explanation as to why accompanies radical claims line this.
And I donât usually do this but you used the worst fucking one, itâs âThereâ bro
But u did it anyways didnât you. Just couldnât resist being a grammar Nazi hey?
Most basic man alive today does analysis, keep trying but you got some learning still to do
Again have some class and engage my ideas instead of be a condescending insufferable asshole.
ManaYoodSushaiIn case your interested
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See how thatâs the grand sum of your ability to contribute to the conversation being had?
Yeeeeeeaaahhh thatâs what the term grammer Nazi was made to point out, not for people going wow, thatâs not making you look intelligent, might want to fix that so people donât rightly presume youre an idiot cause it certainly seems likely enough already
But hey you do you, and if this is what you feel is the priority work here (and if its the only thing you are really capable of accomplishing today) you get on it bruhdda
I know your just being a petty shithead cause you think CIS is a slur or whatever but I like to make the world less shithead petty, more smart people funny petty with a point/lesson
And youâre reading through all my posts to find anything to fix
Itâs what he does. This is one of the strangest persons Iâve met here ever. Maybe we do need to form a club or some kind of peer group of his victims.
Wtf! Thatâs sort of hilarious⌠good times had by⌠other people too đ
My bets that heâs an ai agent/also people behind it posting too, cause they write alot like LLMs and stimulates conversations like a botlike or performer need to be liked type of speaking and with some lame sly agenda constantly, possibly not wholly english speaking (Chinese is my actual guess here) but very intelligent no matter. Still bots are now all the Kore advanced but the way he tries to steer conversations sometimes. Its fucking lame af
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I unfortunately do think theyâre a real person. Ironically, if it was an LLM Iâd actually expect it to engage with the content of my comments, respond to logic, and write something that at least on the surface seems coherent and thought-out. Not this guy though.
Their tactic seems to be intentionally misunderstanding something you said, then forcing you to defend a view you donât even hold - all while never ceding an inch no matter how many logical errors, misunderstandings, and false assumptions you point out in their responses. I believe theyâre just highly ideological, and the moment you make the kind of noises their imagined enemy would make, you get labeled and treated as such.
I honestly kind of hope theyâre just a troll, because at that theyâre actually pretty good. If not, then itâs kind of worrying to think how someone ends up at that point. What theyâve demonstrated here is a near-perfect example of insane troll logic.
explodicleIf getting people to hear you is important, then reconsider your entire writing style.