Mastodawn

These people are cartoons. Responded to my post and when faced with facts he just blocked me. Ridiculous people with no understanding of how the world works.

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rx13

Mar 1

@0xamit
Feels like they're trying to make the point that we failed in the 50s to do this, and have little to no idea of what we're going for here, considering the power vacuum there is still favoring the existing institution to resume control.

No doubt the people want something different for themselves, but eliminating the leadership without supporting mechanisms for power transfer tends to end up with no real change for all involved (with the added instability over the next months and years).

Why was it ever our place to be involved though?

It's a recurring problem for America, that we find ourselves killing for a purpose that is rarely justified, and rarely has the outcomes desired.

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Amit Serper Mar 1

@rx13 Over the last 50 years the sole export of Iran was instability and death. Theyve killed American, French, Brits, Israelis, Syrian, AND THEIR OWN PEOPLE. The Islamic regime develops nukes and openly threatenes nato countries, the US and its allies. This isn't Iraq, this isn't Afghanistan. Iranians are not arabs, they are an ancient civilization and that Islamic stain on their history is "only" 50 years old. The fact that Americans are scarred from Iraq doesn't mean that anything else that happens in this world is Iraq. And categorically opposing everything this administration does just because who the president is, is a very simplistic and unrealistic way to look at life. America with its force is right now the only hope for Iranians who are being executed in their streets with shotguns by their own government. Moreover, this person just came and commented on my post and once he was faced with facts, he just blocked me. It's ridiculous, how can you have conversations like that?

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rx13

Mar 3

@0xamit Understood.

I agree, the person quoted above may very well be falling into the camp of being against war on the basis of administration. They may not understand the nuance of the history in that area.

While I agree someone needed to do something, the someone more often than not to do the something tends to be America, and more often than not we end up doing it for the wrong reasons.

We're not there to "Do the right thing", even if that's what we're selling it as. It's false pretense, and I'm still unconvinced we needed be involved.

I hope the outcome is a net positive for the people most impacted by all of this, but I have some doubts any administration of the US has the ability to conduct wars like this purely on the basis of good intention.