Ideon: I'm building a self-hosted project cockpit on an infinite canvas (v0.5 update)

https://lemmy.world/post/43725501

Wait… there’s no LLM/AI nonsensical utter bloody-void mess?
My gracious sakes… THANK YOU!!! Thank you… from the very depths of my heart… and soul… for making something that is actually for human…
Thank you, dear [email protected] for the marvel… art… you do…
There’s still believe in education, human, art… in the purpose…

This is honestly one of the kindest messages I’ve received. THANKS ❤.

I’m just tired of seeing every project full of soulless AI slop for fame.

I try to build things with intention, even if it’s not the “trend”, I prefer to stay aligned with what suits me :)

This alone is why I’m checking this out

Refreshingly not an ai made thing…

Nothing bad about using ai but

Yes, of course, but I just think that when you make something and especially invite people to use it, you have to at least know what you’re doing, cuz I see a lot of people who promote open source, who want to contribute and so on, saying it’s free stuff, that’s okay, But throw something with AI, you don’t even know WTH you’re doing and you ask people to install your thing ? That’s where I really lose it tbh.
I am with you my friend, all the way
Very interesting, forwarding this to several groups who seem stuck with Miro boards.
Thanks 🙌, appreciate it !

Looks quite impressive!

Not sure if useful for me though.

Thanks, there’s a demo if you want to try, just in case
Already selfhosting it. Thank you so much for your time and effort <3
YAY ! The goat 😆
This is a neat project. You should consider moving this to Codeberg, though. Github is a serious risk for FOSS projects.
Thank you, I am not aware of the risk with GitHub, can you tell me more?

This looks incredible! Kind of bummed I didn’t notice this when you shared it last time, as I’ve been trying to found essentially literally this.

I’m also on agreement with everyone else, ius refreshing to see something non-AI

Ah man, that actually means a lot. Timing is everything I guess 😅

No, I said I wasn’t playing with my server this weekend. I promised my wife. She’ll get pissed.

I guess I’m getting a divorce 🤣

Okay, I’m not taking responsibility for any divorces caused by Ideon 😹

Really glad you liked the demo though, that means a lot. I honestly didn’t expect people to seriously consider moving their whole setup.

For Obsidian migration, yes, I can absolutely make it happen. But I want to be transparent, it’ll take a bit of time to build something clean and reliable :)

Take your time. It’s by no means a deal breaker. I’m sucked into self-hosting deep enough that I can keep what’s in Obsidian right now and just wait until I can move it to Ideon. It wouldn’t be the first time I have 2 services running in parallel until I figure out which one I’m keeping. Hell, I did that for almost a year when I was in Joplin and then decided to move to Obsidian.

As for the divorce, I don’t think it’s going to happen any time soon. She wanted to catch-up on Solo Leveling, so I joined her. I’ll spin up the server tomorrow when she leaves for work 🤣

Heyy @[email protected] ! just remembered your comment, I released v0.7 like a week ago, where you can finally import obsidian vaults ! I told myself it was worth getting back to you ;)
Thanks so Much man. I’ll update later today and give it a shot. This is great.

OK, ready to be a guinea pig for another nice self-hosted service. Just let me know what you want to test from now on, and I’ll freely do so, break it if necessary, and try to put it back together.

Thanks, this is pretty cool.

Also, as others have mentioned, a bit of on how to configure the .env file and other modifications to the docker-compose.yml is always a good idea to make sure people that may not be as tech savvy have some idea on how to troubleshoot. For example, in the .env file the instructions on the ‘App URL’ are clear to me, and evidently to you, but I know of many that would not be able to get it to work over a cloudflare tunnel, for example, only because they wouldn’t touch this part.

Just something to keep in mind.

The demo is sweet bro. Seriously, looks good. I’m going to have to check this out.

Maybe I’m blind, but is there a docker composed YAML?

Would like to reverse proxy this into my VPS.

of course, there is better, i made an installer that does everything for you, downloads the yaml, the env.example creates secrets, prompts for hostname, port, etc. and finally starts the containers, of course you still have the choice to say no at every step, or edit the .env manually, everything is in the repo (I tried to post it here but seems to be blocked by lemmy’s firewall :-/ )

I might be stupid, but I didn’t want to run the install script because I try and run everything via compose files in Komodo.

I don’t know if this helps, but this is what my compose looks like: (Side note, I just put the ENV values directly into the compose. I know this is not recommended, so I put the values to use if you actually mount the env_file like you’re supposed to. )

services: # ------- Ideon-App ------- ideon-app: image: ghcr.io/3xpyth0n/ideon:latest container_name: ideon-app # If you want to do it correctly, mount the ENV_FILE # env_file: # - ${ENV_FILE:-.env} # If you want to do it janky, follow me environment: #If you mount a ENV_File, only PUID and PGID are needed below. PUID: 1000 # Optional: User ID for file ownership (default: 1001) PGID: 1000 # Optional: Group ID for file ownership (default: 1001) # From the ENV_FILE: APP_PORT: 3001 # Host port to expose the app (container listens on 3000) # I had Homepage on port 3000 so I moved Ideon to 3001 APP_URL: http://MYMACHINESIP:3001 # Public base URL of the app (used for invitations and SSO auth) TIMEZONE: UTC # Canonical timezone for server logs ONLY ### Database #SQLITE_PATH=./storage/dev.db # Override SQLite path (optional) # Note: PostgreSQL variables are not required in "development" mode, SQLite is used automatically (storage/dev.db). DB_HOST: ideon-db # PostgreSQL host or service name (Docker Compose: ideon-db) DB_PORT: 5432 # PostgreSQL port (default 5432) DB_NAME: ideon # PostgreSQL database name DB_USER: ideon # PostgreSQL username DB_PASS: # I ran "openssl rand -base64 15" in the terminal to get PW # PostgreSQL password SECRET_KEY: # I ran "openssl rand -hex 32" in the terminal to get PW depends_on: ideon-db: condition: service_healthy restart: unless-stopped ports: - 3001:3001 #"${APP_PORT:-3000}:${APP_PORT:-3000}" volumes: - /mnt/app/containers/ideon/app:/app/storage healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "curl", "-f", "http://localhost:3001/api/health"] #["CMD", "curl", "-f", "http://localhost:${APP_PORT:-3000}/api/health"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 5 start_period: 10s # ------- Ideon-DB ------- ideon-db: image: postgres:16-alpine container_name: ideon-db restart: unless-stopped environment: POSTGRES_USER: ideon # ${DB_USER} POSTGRES_PASSWORD: #same as DB_PASS #${DB_PASS} POSTGRES_DB: ideon # ${DB_NAME} volumes: - /mnt/app/containers/ideon/db:/var/lib/postgresql/data #I just hardmount everything healthcheck: test: ["CMD-SHELL", "pg_isready -U ideon -d ideon"] #["CMD-SHELL", "pg_isready -U ${DB_USER} -d ${DB_NAME}"] interval: 2s timeout: 5s retries: 5

So far I love it. I wanted to use it locally for some low level importance notes before I try to move more over and set it up with an actual mounted env file on a VPS.

My only thought so far is that its not the greatest on mobile, but I’m really not certain what that would even look like.

yeah obviously that’s ok, glad you like it, and yes, didn’t really focus on a mobile mode yet, but it’s coming soon if demand were to grow

Honestly, I was surprised at how well it works on mobile, once I collapsed the sidebar. (Thats my fault for not doing that earlier when I was trying it: I feel pretty silly)

So far I’m genuinely loving it! I certainly hope the demand grows, cause its pretty fucking good so far. Thank you so much!

This looks seriously amazing, I’m totally gonna host this for myself tonight
THANKS ! and yes from what I’ve read, I am strongly considering it

two containers

Good luck, but I’m out.

bro, there’s one container for the app, and one container for postgres, the all doesn’t surpass 500 Mo of RAM… shere do you except to host the database ?

While the comment was obviously a bit rude, perhaps you can take something constructive out of it. I see that you have a nice compose file prepared as an example with postgres, and a curl into bash for ‘automatic installation’.

Many feel a bit uncomfortable with doing that - especially if the script ultimately just sets up docker containers again. Maybe you could add a ‘quickstart’ section there which just consists of a single docker run command setting up the sqlite version.

That way you have the best of both worlds and both people wanting a production setup example and those just wanting to quickly try are served.

ohh okay good to know, thanks for the advice !

On a more personal note, still eagerly reading your updates here every couple of weeks. Sounds like it’s shaping up nicely!

Good luck with the api wiring to let people control the forges directly from the interface for 1.0 - if you ever need a tester for forgejo integration you can hit me up.

ohh you’re great, I definitely won’t forget !
Looks really interesting, I’ll try it as soon as there is non-piped docker-compose. I tried to deploy it with portainer but gave up after half hour of fiddling with url/ip:port combinations, I just cant make it work with NginxProxyManager.

There is already a non-piped docker-compose setup. The installer just downloads the compose file and env.example, and you can also get them manually from GitHub.

You don’t need to set APP_PORT. If it’s unset, the app falls back to the PORT var provided by Portainer. Just make sure APP_URL exactly matches the root path you’re using behind Nginx.

I know from a friend his deployment running fine on Portainer, so it should work with a standard setup.