Justin LeeFeb 28
quick poll: if you were to update to a new version of a #java library you'd been using and the new version had a transitive dependency on #kotlin that it hadn't had before, would that bother you and if so, how much?
Show threadPaul Merlin 🍿Feb 28

@evanchooly writing kotlin I would not notice, writing java I would be upset and look for alternatives.

A java core with optional kotlin sugar is appealing. Kmp has a different but interesting reach. The fact that conciling both requires a port most of the time is kind of irritating

Show threadJustin LeeFeb 28
@eskatos I've been there! I did the first kotlin apis for quarkus/panache back in my red hat days. It was annoying and I think I made some choices I regret.
Show threadPaul Merlin 🍿Mar 1
@evanchooly oh, forcing a kotlin dependency on java consumers sounds like regrets to me :) If I would target both java and kotlin I would seek for a reusable core domain. In some cases, it might be possible to get kotlin common without stdlib code to ship to java consumers without dependencies. Some shading is probably needed for intrinsics.
Show threadJustin LeeMar 1
@eskatos the kotlin panache was an opt in dependency so I didn't make *that* mistake 😁
Show threadPaul Merlin 🍿Mar 1
@evanchooly good for you :) some projects out there did indeed make *that* mistake
Show threadJustin Lee
@eskatos i was mulling it but Mastodon and bluesky talked me back from the ledge. Claude is converting that code for me as we speak.
Mar 1 at 12:16amMastodon for Android